Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 wow... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
termite 463 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Are these "beta" drums from Promag? They aren't listed on their site, just the 12 ga. drums Quote Link to post Share on other sites
butch1911 12 Posted November 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Are these "beta" drums from Promag? They aren't listed on their site, just the 12 ga. drums I don't know if they are beta drums or not. I had seen them at a gun show back in the summer but I did not have a 410 yet. When I asked about them no one had seen them either. Cobra has been saying for a while that promag was going to make some but no one on this site had seen one. So there was a gun show this weekend and I was able to find the same vendor an buy a few. They hand cycle fine but I have not shot one yet. There is a little bit of up and down movement in front of the mag where it locks into the mag well. It is pretty tight on the magazine catch on mine and I will probably have to file just a little off the mag to let the catch work properly. I will probably cannibalize one of my other saigas for the parts so I can convert it tonight and shoot it tomorrow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vermiform 26 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 He didn't happen to mention how he came about them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
butch1911 12 Posted November 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 He didn't happen to mention how he came about them? To be honest, I was too excited to get one that I forgot to ask. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lenf 5 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 "They hand cycle fine but I have not shot one yet. There is a little bit of up and down movement in front of the mag where it locks into the mag well. It is pretty tight on the magazine catch on mine and I will probably have to file just a little off the mag to let the catch work properly. I will probably cannibalize one of my other saigas for the parts so I can convert it tonight and shoot it tomorrow." I've got six magazines from three different manufacturers. They all needed some refitting to work properly so the description of movement and filing sounds normal. They all worked in the stock configuration gun and they all worked after I had made a number of modifications and conversions. What do you have to convert to be able to use these magazines? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
butch1911 12 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I was just concerned about 922r compliance. I did go test these out today after a hasty conversion. I shot 3 inch and 2 1/2 inch. The 3 inch (20 rounds) all fed fine with out a problem. The 2 1/2 had two FTF. Two shells caught on the bottom lip of the feed ramp. I had the same type of FTF with my Saiga 12 when it was under gassed, but that does not seem to be the issue here. I don't know if a little tweaking would fix it for the 2 1/2 shells or not. I do have to say it was quite fun blasting away with 20 rounds at a time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 This makes the 410 super cool! It'll sure be a beast to feed it though. Those 410 shells are pricey. Man I can't wait till these things come out on market! Thanks for sharing with us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigdaddyhatty 65 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 This makes the 410 super cool! It'll sure be a beast to feed it though. Those 410 shells are pricey. Man I can't wait till these things come out on market! Thanks for sharing with us. My thoughts exactly I definatly agree about the price of 410 shells! A 30 round drum can make your money go fast : ) I was thinking I probally have too many 410 mags now..... but then again I have 6 30rd grease gun mags for my MAC and I'm always looking for more. The drum is awesome, but I think I can wait. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
butch1911 12 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I hear you on the price of shells, this had given me the added push I need to start reloading .410. I haven't crunched the numbers yet but my vague ccalculations indicate it to be quite a cost savings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackDRipper 1 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 (edited) I called Promag on Monday and they said the 410 drums would be up on their web store in 48 hours. It's 54 hours later now and the drum isn't on their website yet. The guy wasn't sure of the price either , he thought msrp was like $144 and SAI-A9 was the catalog number. I told him I saw one on the internet and he was surprised that anyone had one. JR Edited November 23, 2011 by JackDRipper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gpqueen 545 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 The only ones sent out are the beta test drums. We have had them on order for a several months now. It should not be much longer before they come in. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
{ROS}_me 32 Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 The only ones sent out are the beta test drums. We have had them on order for a several months now. It should not be much longer before they come in. Thanks, CSS I will send an order your way once they hit your site ....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MH12194 7 Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 The Saiga .410 just got cooler! It was cool to begin with. But now...It's just over the top. 30 rounds of .410 buckshot sounds like it would make a mess. May have to pick up a .410 soon. Before people start buying them up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
schultze13 354 Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 I will have a range report soon after I get mine If it is tempermental in your gun let me know I don't live that far from pittsburgh and would be will to take a ride and let you try my gun. Plus I want to see one it has just renewed my interst in my .410 project it is converted with stock AK funiture I have been wanting to do a RPK style with a bipod but have been putting it off now I am back on the ball. Also I have a 410 rifled paradox choke we can see how it throwes slugs.Let me know how your testing goes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 ya weird. gun co do either a great job of letting people know whats goin on, or they dont. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ticknc 5 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 So I must have "Rip Van Winkled" on this. The last time I logged in or posted was August... "and what to my wondering eyes should appear, but a" .410 Drum and 30 rounds down range. Finally, just what I asked Santa for for the last few years. Greg from CSS has mine on the way. Unless Shannon has one already, maybe I could bring it out and we could run it through its paces. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
{ROS}_me 32 Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 Thanks CSS , Got to test drum out today It worked well with mixed loads ,shot some bird, buck and a few slugs . Awsome service , would order again . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
svoloch 0 Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 as has already been said this does make the 410 substatialy more interesting. I need one> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
probasco 0 Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 SO NOW WE KNOW THEY DO EXIST AND ARE FOR SALE AT PROMAG FOR $150=/-, MISSISSIPPI ARMS AT $119 BUT SOLD OUT, WHERE THE HELL CAN I GET ONE AT UNDER $120. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigdaddyhatty 65 Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 SO NOW WE KNOW THEY DO EXIST AND ARE FOR SALE AT PROMAG FOR $150=/-, MISSISSIPPI ARMS AT $119 BUT SOLD OUT, WHERE THE HELL CAN I GET ONE AT UNDER $120. Carolina Shooter Supply 119.95 In Stock Come on man Don't forget to use the 5% discount for forum members. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6x6pinz 4 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 got mine today, did not take me long to get it loaded up. Will take it out this weekend and see how she works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 So I must have "Rip Van Winkled" on this. The last time I logged in or posted was August... "and what to my wondering eyes should appear, but a" .410 Drum and 30 rounds down range. Finally, just what I asked Santa for for the last few years. Greg from CSS has mine on the way. Unless Shannon has one already, maybe I could bring it out and we could run it through its paces. I got one here we can play with bro! Just lemme know when ya wanna come by! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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