ATF Shotgun ban plans are killed

[MLM0358 107]

Manasquan, NJ --(Ammoland.com)- Saiga 12’s, Benelli M4’s and virtually any other tactical/military shotgun can no longer be banned from import by the ATF.

A little noticed provision tucked into a large appropriations bill obviously flew under the radar of the “Brady Bunch” and the “Illegal Mayors.”

The new law effectively kills ATF’s plan to stop tactical/military shotgun imports by way of abusing the “sporting purpose” requirement and their agency rulemaking powers.

The “Fiscal Year 2012 Agriculture, Commerce/Justice/Science (CJS) and Transportation/Housing/Urban Development (THUD) Appropriations bills”, also known as the “Mini-Bus”, was passed by Congress, and signed into law by President Obama on November 18, 2011.

The new law reads as follows:

SEC. 541. None of the funds made available by this Act may be used to pay the salaries or expenses of personnel to deny, or fail to act on, an application for the importation of any model of shotgun if–

(1) all other requirements of law with respect to the proposed importation are met; and

(2) no application for the importation of such model of shotgun, in the same configuration, had been denied by the Attorney General prior to January 1, 2011, on the basis that the shotgun was not particularly suitable for or readily adaptable

This new law became necessary due to the ATF releasing on January 27, 2011, a “Study on the Importability of Certain Shotguns.” The “Study” argued “military shotguns, or shotguns with common military features that are unsuitable for traditional shotgun sports” should be banned from import into the U.S.

The ban would have applied to all shotguns including semi-autos, pump-actions, double barrels, etc. As part of the rulemaking process, comments from the public on the study were allowed to be submitted until May 1, 2011.

Many gun owners had been dreading the ATF’s decision, knowing full well what ATF’s intention was from the start.

[elvis christ 451]

Thank ya, mr. president.

[patriot 7,197]

Thank ya, mr. president.

 

You're kidding, right?

[supertex 242]

this part does not sound good to me (can anyone explain this to me, thanks )

(2) no application for the importation of such model of shotgun, in the same configuration, had been denied by the Attorney General prior to January 1, 2011, on the basis that the shotgun was not particularly suitable for or readily adaptable[/indent]

[beefcakeb99 572]

my take on that last bit is....that a gun that has been named, by the ag, such as the streetsweeper or the other shotguns that were described by name, are still restricted??

[kevin.rose0@gmail.com 62]

I'd assume so.

 

But that should mean that un-neutured S-12 and other European magazine fed shotguns should be importable.

[gunfun 3,931]

Yay.

[G O B 3,516]

Every one of the Saigas I ever saw were neutered. Therefore, they were previously denied a permit for the UNneutered ones. This is standard government speak for "Quit grabbing for more, and go back to what you had,we gave you that much and you ain't getting any more."

[kevin.rose0@gmail.com 62]

If you change the name and model it's not the same gun. ...

[theturtlepond 31]

Spas 15 anyone?

[beefcakeb99 572]

Every one of the Saigas I ever saw were neutered. Therefore, they were previously denied a permit for the UNneutered ones. This is standard government speak for "Quit grabbing for more, and go back to what you had,we gave you that much and you ain't getting any more."

 

actually, there are a number of saiga that have even been imported in pistol grip form. also, the izhmash website shows many models with pistol grips

[TEPPICHFRESSER 15]

You guys think we are going to see a price drop in the near future?

[diamondback 56]

So, anyone have any guesstimates on how long it's gonna take the Saiga Speculation Bubble to burst? An LGS lists one for ~$640, but that's a little more than I'd like to pay with all the "correction" I'll have to do...

 

EDIT: Looks like 'Sledge and I had the same thought at the same time...

Edited November 21, 2011 by Diamondback

[G O B 3,516]

this part does not sound good to me (can anyone explain this to me, thanks )

(2) no application for the importation of such model of shotgun, in the same configuration, had been denied by the Attorney General prior to January 1, 2011, on the basis that the shotgun was not particularly suitable for or readily adaptable[/indent]

Every one of the Saigas I ever saw were neutered. Therefore, they were previously denied a permit for the UNneutered ones. This is standard government speak for "Quit grabbing for more, and go back to what you had,we gave you that much and you ain't getting any more."

 

actually, there are a number of saiga that have even been imported in pistol grip form. also, the izhmash website shows many models with pistol grips

It does NOT say anything about ever being approved, just DISAPROVED! Status quo as of 1/1/11. Ihat is what this says. Wish all we want, we did not win anything, we don't loose either. We just go on like before.

In a war not loosing is a path to eventually winning.