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#1 wolf88

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 07:33 PM

Was shooting my s12 this evening and I was trying to run low brass universal on setting 2 well it would not function (not shocked there). I got my high brass out put on setting 1 would not function put to setting 2 functions perfect. These are older re loads so unsure on quality/age should I worry about my s12 being under gassed or go buy new high brass and try it out?

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 07:56 PM

Sounds undergassed. Buy some fresh rounds as well

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 08:04 PM

I'm gonna stop and grab some high brass tommorrow and test it of it is undergassed, what is the easiest diy way to fix. Links to thread or any advice appreciated.

Tore down looked at ports I can see three in a triangle very small holes but three non the less

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 08:36 PM

How many rounds have you run in it?
It took about 80 low brass wally world ammo for mine to start working right.
Buy 100 rounds low brass, set it on "2", shoot till you have some idear if it will come to ya.

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 08:37 PM

U can get a low brass reliability kit from Carolina shooter supply which may help. Or you can take your GB off and drill out ur gas ports. There is a good tutorial on this forum. Maybe someone can post a link. I opened mine yesterday. Not as hard as I thought it would be.
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 08:38 PM

I've Only about 50 through it sadly been busy with the holidays and stuff I'm hoppImg to run a couple hundred high brass and losen it up.

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 08:41 PM

Is this a new out the box s-12?
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 08:44 PM

Is this a new out the box s-12?

Yes it was nib I cleaned the factory crap out of it and all.

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 09:36 PM

Hand cycle it ALOT!! then field strip it and you should be able to see the friction points. Take some fine grit sandpaper and smooth down the bolt , bolt carrier and hammer face. Then get some polish and go to town on the places you smoothed with sandpaper. This will help the action to work easier. This may help you to shoot low brass.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 12:39 AM

Check out the polishing the bolt thred. It sounds like you just need to break it in. The saigas like federal bulk better than winchester or remengton

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 07:38 AM

Ok I spose I will see what happens. I did notice on the Winchester uni some times the slide would not even function.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 07:54 AM

Shoot a couple hundred rounds thru it before changing ANYTHING! It needs a good break in.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 10:23 AM

Ordered a 250rd bulk pack of 00 buck so cross yalls fingers that she just needs a good Beatin to straighten it all out.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 10:36 AM

That should do it. I would still hand cycle along with a lil sanding and polishing. It'll save yousome ammo. U can store some of that 00buck away for a rainy day
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 11:06 AM

good advice all around,
you may want to check the ports with an angled pick or bent paper clip. to be certain that all three are clear.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 11:33 AM

By the powers vested in me I heal your Saiga!
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 02:02 AM

Try a CSS puck, but don't start swapping out springs. A friend of mine has some S12s that run pretty good and they all have factory springs. He does a lot of work to them though. Friction reduction and gas work.

Really, that thing probably needs 'smithing. I would guess, from your claims, that theres is something wrong with it, be it too little port surface area, bad machining the the lock up area, or something else. If getting these things running was as simple as beating it into submission with some buckshot, who would send anything out for work? Who would ship their weapon out and pay ~$300 for a reliability service? There would be no Saiga'smiths or people that specialize in working on the internals. What is buckshot going to do that violently hand-cycling the weapon will not do, other than emptying your wallet? Think about this with a little logic applied.

If you are good with your hands, you would be better served doing some research and spending your money on the following....

Dremel
Sanding drums for Dremel
Polishing pads for Dremel
Polishing compound
Hobby files
400 grit sandpaper
Dewalt Cobalt drill bits

Edited by evlblkwpnz, 26 November 2011 - 09:24 AM.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 12:23 PM

Ok little update I got new 00 buck but it in setting 1 worked perfectly I think the old reload ammo was just junk because this ammo kicked like a mule on setting one.

However I'm still Going to check the ports and probable to a polish job on it .

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 04:19 PM

That is good news, the goal is to be able to feed it cheap bulk pack reliably.(Federal, Remmington) That way you can have a good time shooting and it won't cost too much. The gun is designed to shoot bigger loads like the 00buck, that is what is really important. It sounds like you got her doing that. All of the above advice is is good advice.(check ports, polish)
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 10:09 PM

Damn.... I missed the part about "old reloads". Reading comprehension is fundamental.... duh.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 09:30 PM

100 rounds of federal #2 hv steel shot now with Winchester universal it tried to eject but stove pipes makin progress cross your fingers for me....

I know y'all say fed bulk pack tends to work better but I just have so many Winchester rounds already so yeah....

Edited by wolf88, 29 November 2011 - 08:27 AM.





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