Lone Eagle 839 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Well, get ready gentlemen. Yours truly gave it his blessing today. http://news.yahoo.com/obama-signs-defense-bill-despite-reservations-200818531.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted January 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 He never gave a shit. All he was worried about was it would curb the POTUS' power, not that it essentially violates the fundamental freedoms the nation was based on. Nice of the gutless bastard to sign it on a holiday weekend while in Hawaii too.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Donkeyshins 87 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 You do realize that whoever was in the White House, the bill would have been signed - except perhaps for Ron Paul, but let's face it, he's not going to be the POTUS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 I still had faith that, by some miracle, that there was some chance this wouldn't go. I have now lost that, and all faith in our present government... This is a sad time indeed. Farewell to our rights, and liberty... At least what was left. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
siminov 164 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Hello, my name is Ken and I'm located in Clinton County, NY. I'm fairly new to the forum and like to keep a low profile but I've been following your collective of posts. First for the tuning of certain firearms (thanks for the excellent info), and secondly for the like minded consolidation of political views and awareness. It may seem that some of your posts don't recieve the attention they deserve but they do. I'm sure many members are like myself and are trying to keep a low profile but like me are taking steps to prepare and prevent. I've sent emails to my worthless traitor of a representative Bill Owens and to the White House stating in very direct terms my opinions, all in hopes of avoiding this seizure of rights. Since I've expressed myself directly to the people whose view I've been avoiding I've realized it doesn't really matter if I'm active on this forum or not, they know me now and I don't really care. I'll defend my family's, friends, neighbors, mine and your rights till my last breath. Hard times may be here and I guess if I'm to introduce myself now is the tyme. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 The screen name says it all. I've served 19 yrs of military service for this great nation. I fear that the nation will not make it to my 20th year and retirement. (which I was really looking forward to) I'm already on watch list just because of deploying. Funny, they sent us there, but now we are considered possible threats. I will vote and hope in vain it will help change things because I still believe in the constitution. It's all can hold onto even if congress and the president don't. I'll be damned if they are going to take my freedom. The phrase "cold dead hand" comes to mind. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Let the first of us be taken. There will be riots in the streets. Let the fist of us be killed. There will be blood in the streets. I have not served my country. I had the wrong mindset when I should have... But I have the deepest respect for those who have and do. I would, however, gladly fight to the death for my liberty and freedom as well as that of my friends and countrymen. I hope we never see this happen or have to happen. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unclejake 428 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 If/when they DO take someone away for one of their silly reasons, that's when Saiga forum and other sites like it will mysteriously go down, because they will not want the facts to get out to those that would DO something about it. The news media will also have a lid on it as well, so the facts couldn't be leaked out. At least, that's the way I see it happening. Good reason for everyone to get together with regional contact points, just in case..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted January 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 If/when they DO take someone away for one of their silly reasons, that's when Saiga forum and other sites like it will mysteriously go down, because they will not want the facts to get out to those that would DO something about it. The news media will also have a lid on it as well, so the facts couldn't be leaked out. At least, that's the way I see it happening. Good reason for everyone to get together with regional contact points, just in case..... Not a bad idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Not only will need regional contacts, you'll also want couple of national contacts. We should consider taking further discussion off line. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Found this interesting article. http://www.pcworld.com/article/247147/hackers_said_to_be_planning_to_launch_own_satellites_to_combat_censorship.html Yakdung 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unclejake 428 Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Found this interesting article. http://www.pcworld.c...censorship.html Yakdung Very interesting!!, And Liberty - Death, definitely good idea!! Things need to get rolling. I believe that something like this was started a while back, but a lot has happened since then. Might need to do a search on here to keep from doing work that has already been done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatonic 159 Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 If/when they DO take someone away for one of their silly reasons, that's when Saiga forum and other sites like it will mysteriously go down, because they will not want the facts to get out to those that would DO something about it. The news media will also have a lid on it as well, so the facts couldn't be leaked out. At least, that's the way I see it happening. Good reason for everyone to get together with regional contact points, just in case..... I hope all our members feel this way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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