lojack_mofo 0 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) <Link removed> Enjoy. Edited December 1, 2011 by Nailbomb Link to Non-Buisness Member Removed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Again. Anything BUT a link is okay by forum rules. The title says it all, if you can't figure it out from there, your stupid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TARE 47 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) 107 of those wavey L things Edited December 1, 2011 by TARE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TARE 47 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) If you can't figure it out you're stupid Edited December 1, 2011 by TARE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lojack_mofo 0 Posted December 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 I am new to the forum and was excited to get the news out. Sorry for the mistake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SDRider 7 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 I may be ignorant, but what is with the high demand for the 8rders? Is it just because of ergos of the 10 and 12 rders are too long and cumbersome?? Especially with the high dollar tag associated with these guys im struggling to get the point. Dont get me wrong I would love to have one, but ordering anything from Russia firearm related seems to be a total lottery. I also noticed that SGM makes 8 rders, but no one seems to care about those? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TARE 47 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 I may be ignorant, but what is with the high demand for the 8rders? Is it just because of ergos of the 10 and 12 rders are too long and cumbersome?? Especially with the high dollar tag associated with these guys im struggling to get the point. Dont get me wrong I would love to have one, but ordering anything from Russia firearm related seems to be a total lottery. I also noticed that SGM makes 8 rders, but no one seems to care about those? The russian mags are supposed to be the most reliable, plus original parts have more value unless aftermarket options are better. SGM eight round mags are a good alternative, I like the APG mags just fine until I become a rich man my most expensive mag is my MD drum. Funny thing is my russian 5 round that cam with the gun has more failures attributed to it than my APG 10 rounders. Rounds hang up in the upper mag body of my factory 5 and SGM 10 nothing that I couldn't sand to make perfect, its definately the rear metal reinforcement of the factory five, its a little rough and the back of the shell hangs on it. Russian factory mags are better, but I don't think they're worth what is being asked for them currently Quote Link to post Share on other sites
schultze13 354 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 I am new to the forum and was excited to get the news out. Sorry for the mistake. Since your new you do it like this "Rusmilitary.com and factory 8rd'er in stock" you can put the website of a non-business member just not a link. I am sure it was just a newbie mistake, no harm no foul. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 There's "The best", and then there's "pretty good". If you're not using your gun for defense then "pretty good" might be good enough. But if you are, which one would you rather have? For me, it's a no-brainer. Yes I think the price is high, but I don't think it's outrageous. I'll bet each one of us can point to far less important things that we've spent a lot more money on. The bottom line is...they cost what they cost and to get them you have to pay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
schultze13 354 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) I may be ignorant, but what is with the high demand for the 8rders? Is it just because of ergos of the 10 and 12 rders are too long and cumbersome?? Especially with the high dollar tag associated with these guys im struggling to get the point. Dont get me wrong I would love to have one, but ordering anything from Russia firearm related seems to be a total lottery. I also noticed that SGM makes 8 rders, but no one seems to care about those? Should of done this is one post but it is my first day . The appeal of the factory 8rd'ers is that they are russian, and they have metal feed lips (like the AGP's) and also have metal locking lugs and a reinforcment in the back rib. I have never had a FTF or FTE in any of my S-12's factory mags. I got 7 8rd'ers and over 20 of the 5rd'ers and to be fair I also got a pile of AGP's and never had a problem with them either I just like having factory mag for my guns. The only thing I can tell you is to buy one and you will understand what I mean. To be fair 4 of my 8rd'ers are magwell mags for my wifes gun and while there are ways to modifiy the US mags to use a US made magwell and there are some nice US made magwells (R&R is my favorite) when it comes to HD for my wife and daughter there is no price to great for there protection and I will only buy the best there is, no matter the cost. Edited December 1, 2011 by SCHULTZE 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SDRider 7 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Ah I.C.. and totally understand about needing the best. I tend to do that with all of my two wheel'd toys. After spending 600 on some foot rest, I think I can spring for one of these to see what the hype is about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rnemhrd 165 Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) I did the pounds conversion and thought it was a little high for a mag. As far as $600 for some rear sets. You guys say Harley shit is expensive. I assume you ment for the Gixxer in your pic. Edited December 2, 2011 by rnemhrd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SDRider 7 Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) I did the pounds conversion and thought it was a little high for a mag. As far as $600 for some rear sets. You guys say Harley shit is expensive. I assume you ment for the Gixxer in your pic. Hahha yep! well not this one, the bike in my avatar is my street bike. I have another gixxer that is used for track duty. I noticed lots of guys on here are also big Sportbike fans too. Edited December 2, 2011 by SDRider Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpoppel41 24 Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 those are for the s-12 airsoft? Uploaded with ImageShack.us Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FlameRed 4 Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 £105 Sterling for a mag? I'll wait for a US one... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 KVAR had them once upon a time here in the States. Can't remember the price though, but it wasn't cheap if I recall correctly... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tokinshitload 12 Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 You know how many 5 round keepshooting magazines that would buy! I think I will stick with 12 round drums, and those $11.95 5 rounders that haven't failed in my gun yet. I am not in the market for collectors items that I am afraid to use because of the price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 and CSSpecs has steel mags in the works for the s12. I realize that others have promised before, but they just made good mags for the 20. That makes thier proposition much more credible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tokinshitload 12 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Now I would pay for that! Plastic magazines worry me in cold weather. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 I suspect some that "worry" about the Russian hi capacity magazines have never held or seen one in person. They are tough as shit and worth the cost in my opinion. Go pick up a Russian polymer 5.45 magazine built in the 70s, they're still the best built, toughest polymer magazines made to date, which is why they're still rocking 25+ years later. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 xacex, nothing to "worry" about. there is hardly a temperature besides alaska that is comparable with the siberian winter. Twentynizzo, you are right. mostly noobs. OEM is the preferred way to me. Especially the sheer badassity of the Izhmash logo on there. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 I don't have a personal opinion on the quality of the russian mags. I would point out that they are no longer in stock. I can't justify purchasing one when the US ones seem good. I know problems have occured with all the US brands, but I suspect that if the Russian mags were equally prolific we would see problems with them too. The other thing is the strong cognitive bias to convince yourself that your inflated purchase price was worthwhile. For the guy concerned about cold weather in alaska, I would point out that most of Alaska is wet alot of the time, and that plastic is better in the wet than steel. It also isn't a heatsink every time you touch it and it doesn't cause massive condensation like metal. On my family's fishing boats in AK, anything steel would condense water constantly and rust out rapidly, even if not exposed directly to spray. That is part of why most people I know preferred revolvers to autopistols on the boats. Revolvers never get rust inside the magazine to gum up the works. Metal mags are also vulnerable to malfunction due to dents, which would either visibly shatter a plastic mag or bounce and leave no damage. There are somewhat less likely to have surprise failures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 KVAR had them once upon a time here in the States. Can't remember the price though, but it wasn't cheap if I recall correctly... Think they were about $130. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bcrider 68 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 I don't have a personal opinion on the quality of the russian mags. I would point out that they are no longer in stock. I can't justify purchasing one when the US ones seem good. I know problems have occured with all the US brands, but I suspect that if the Russian mags were equally prolific we would see problems with them too. The other thing is the strong cognitive bias to convince yourself that your inflated purchase price was worthwhile. For the guy concerned about cold weather in alaska, I would point out that most of Alaska is wet alot of the time, and that plastic is better in the wet than steel. It also isn't a heatsink every time you touch it and it doesn't cause massive condensation like metal. On my family's fishing boats in AK, anything steel would condense water constantly and rust out rapidly, even if not exposed directly to spray. That is part of why most people I know preferred revolvers to autopistols on the boats. Revolvers never get rust inside the magazine to gum up the works. Metal mags are also vulnerable to malfunction due to dents, which would either visibly shatter a plastic mag or bounce and leave no damage. There are somewhat less likely to have surprise failures. The other thing is the strong cognitive bias to convince yourself that the purchase price is not worth it because you can't afford it (nothing wrong with that, I've been there), or you can afford it, but are too cheap to buy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tokinshitload 12 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) Seems I need to put my concerns about plastic magazines to bed, but I would still prefer metal mags. Edited December 8, 2011 by xacex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yoshi 87 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 I never could justify the cost, or really afford it. Then the disease overwhelmed me, I had to have one. If I had the cash I would have more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 I don't have a personal opinion on the quality of the russian mags. I would point out that they are no longer in stock. I can't justify purchasing one when the US ones seem good. I know problems have occured with all the US brands, but I suspect that if the Russian mags were equally prolific we would see problems with them too. The other thing is the strong cognitive bias to convince yourself that your inflated purchase price was worthwhile. For the guy concerned about cold weather in alaska, I would point out that most of Alaska is wet alot of the time, and that plastic is better in the wet than steel. It also isn't a heatsink every time you touch it and it doesn't cause massive condensation like metal. On my family's fishing boats in AK, anything steel would condense water constantly and rust out rapidly, even if not exposed directly to spray. That is part of why most people I know preferred revolvers to autopistols on the boats. Revolvers never get rust inside the magazine to gum up the works. Metal mags are also vulnerable to malfunction due to dents, which would either visibly shatter a plastic mag or bounce and leave no damage. There are somewhat less likely to have surprise failures. The other thing is the strong cognitive bias to convince yourself that the purchase price is not worth it because you can't afford it (nothing wrong with that, I've been there), or you can afford it, but are too cheap to buy. Yes, there is that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randyf 35 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 I'm sure they are good magazines. I looked at them but 4 mags shipped to me would cost as much as a brand new S-12 and for me comparing 4 polymer magazines to a new shotgun made it hard to justify. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glennhmd 23 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 the 8-rounders from rusmil just went out of stock today. but i just received my pre-order from over three months back just yesterday and all i can say is, Christmas came early this year for me. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 sooo pretty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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