Atlantic Firearms.com 170 Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 We just finished shooting a video review of the SSAK 47 Slide Fire stock on the AK47 / AK74 & Converted Saiga 12 . The stock set is pretty impressive was very fun to shoot , despite the video we were able to keep on target with controlled bump fire technique . We hope to enjoy the video !!! Atlantic Firearms.com Widest Selection of AK Rifles in the USA . www.AtlanticFirearms.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZoRECL--40&list=UU2HI0XOmNTM9IU3YJNxw1gg&index=1&feature=plcp 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 looks cool but how tight is that thing side to side? looks kinda wigley are they leagal in oregon? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 looks cool but how tight is that thing side to side? looks kinda wigley are they leagal in oregon? Don't forget that the main purpose of this thing is to assist in bump firing. It isn't intended to be a serious or extremely solid stock. When it comes to the intended purpose of this stock, loose is fast.... like NASCAR racing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atlantic Firearms.com 170 Posted December 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 The Saiga 12 is a beast but a hell of alot of fun to shoot !!! Atlantic Firearms.com Widest Selection of AK Firearms in the USA . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 DAMN I WONT ONE, But to much money going out the pipe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theturtlepond 31 Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 I was going to get a new TV. But that is way to enticing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joebanda1213 59 Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 I tripple dog dare some one to put one on their Siaga .308 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrBoomstick 16 Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Lol i almost tried the ssar15 on my ar 10, but i wussed out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sickness 89 Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 I tripple dog dare some one to put one on their Siaga .308 Get your S308's muzzle threaded and get the SEI Coast Guard / "Good Iron" brake on it. Does this for the M14: Works wonders for 308 muzzle jump. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
purduepurdy 18 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Lol i almost tried the ssar15 on my ar 10, but i wussed out. Tried to do it on my DPMS LR308, the entire upper/lower is longer though (longer BCG for the .308 round???). It would mate up but the trigger is too far forward to work. If you have a descent brake for the .308 it won't punish you that bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrBoomstick 16 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 I have a patriot ordanance ar 10 it looks like should fit, but i was afraid of it not seating properly and flying off the handle so to speak. hence the wuss out. If i had a 308 saiga yea i'd do it. i bump fired my m1 garand just to see if i could. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rotorocious 0 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) I can't seem to get it to work. Maybe I'm just retarded, but this doesn't look right. Edited January 26, 2012 by Rotorocious Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Looks like you need a Diy trigger guard that has the same hole spacing and does not have a built in PG nut. You could get a strip of steel 1/2"x 1/8" and put a couple of holes in it for about $2. Or use your OEM trigger guard with a couple of holes in it if you still have that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TTMR 11 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 We just finished shooting a video review of the SSAK 47 Slide Fire stock on the AK47 / AK74 & Converted Saiga 12 . The stock set is pretty impressive was very fun to shoot , despite the video we were able to keep on target with controlled bump fire technique . We hope to enjoy the video !!! Atlantic Firearms.com Widest Selection of AK Rifles in the USA . www.AtlanticFirearms.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZoRECL--40&list=UU2HI0XOmNTM9IU3YJNxw1gg&index=1&feature=plcp Oh herro... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulie_Wallnutz 4 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I don't see this being legal for long. They'll throw a term like this into law: "Any device used for the rapid fireing of a weapon" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
armory 142 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 What would happen to all the ones out there if the ATF does declare them illegal? Just curious how that works....I know there is precedence before, how were those items handled? Could you be grandfathered in somehow? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun12 205 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 If they ever did outlaw them they would probably do what they did with the Street Sweepers. I can probably bet that these might be outlawed in the future, i mean look what it can make your gun do!. All it would take is some idiot buying one and going out and commiting a crime. The media would make this thing look as if it were an "evil device" that turns your gun into a fully automatic machinegun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
super jim 14 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 and what was the outcome of existing street sweepers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun12 205 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 An owner of a Street Sweeper had to register it with the ATF after they classified it as a "Destructive Device". If my memory serves me well there is a thread on these very forums with all the info associated with the ATF and the Street Sweeper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slostang 80 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I wonder if it's possible to fit a spring in the mechanism of the stock to elimanate the need to pull forward with the off hand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TTMR 11 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I wonder if it's possible to fit a spring in the mechanism of the stock to elimanate the need to pull forward with the off hand. Such things have existed and have been deemed to be machine guns by BATFE, so I'd recommend against it however IANAL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I don't see this being legal for long. They'll throw a term like this into law: "Any device used for the rapid fireing of a weapon" So they're going to try to ban fingers?????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 They are gonna ban this just like they were gonna ban the S12 a few months ago. Be very afraid. The similarities between this thing and the street sweeper are shocking. *sarcasm inserted above* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buford T Justice 17 Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 All it would take is some idiot buying one and going out and commiting a crime. The media would make this thing look as if it were an "evil device" that turns your gun into a fully automatic machinegun. Or countless videos online for the gvt to see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sickness 89 Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I wonder if it's possible to fit a spring in the mechanism of the stock to elimanate the need to pull forward with the off hand. That would make it classified as a machine gun. The reason this stock has been ruled legal is that the entirety of the operation is performed by human energy. If you insert a spring into the stock, mechanical energy from the gun is used, making it an MG. A good rule of thumb for thinking about this stuff is that if a twist tie wrapped around the back of the PG and over the trigger would let the gun empty a mag - it is illegal. This illustrates that the gun is automatically firing without a human needing to be involved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
armory 142 Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Who out there has actually used one of these? Not somebody trying to sell one but an honest actual real world evaluation would be helpful. Can you actually on purpose put out a 3rd burst and keep it on target? Or does the motion of the bumpfire action move it around too much to remain locked on to a silhouette and be accurate at say 30 yds? (7.62x39 AK's) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 If you practice enough with any product you become proficient with it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigchris 31 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Does the s12 have to be converted for this stock to work? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
armory 142 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Yes. Does the s12 have to be converted for this stock to work? Yes it does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
britch999 1 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) The one for the ar is one of the funnest toys you will ever own and easy to use. I did get one of these but will havent tested it yet. I will also stick to ak's for these. looks like to much pressure from a 12. Are they shooting low or high brass in the video? The ar15 one is completely controllable, takes a few minutes and you can do 1,2,3 shot nurst and full auto no prob. Edited February 2, 2012 by britch999 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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