imarangemaster 315 Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 I just scored a case of 1.000 of vintage original Ulyanovsk 8M3 Sapsan 124 grain hollow point. Best thing is, it is the original military grade laquered case with red laquer military sealant around the case mouth and primers. Wolf was the last to use the sealant on their military classic, but stopped using sealant about 3 or 4 years ago, and recently quit using the 8M3 bullet in their Military Classic hollow point. I paid $225, but this is the "real deal" stuff. WATCH OUT ZOMBIES! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) Might just be me, but i think you over reacted a little. This stuff isnt as uncommon as you think and that a pretty common price. It has been produced under many diff names and labels with the same headstamps. Im holding a few right now witha different box. Edited January 4, 2012 by Chevyman097 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted January 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) True, but it is hard to find with the sealant. Even Wolf MC doesn't use sealant or the 8M3 anymore. This is the first time in a couple years that I have found anything more than a box or two, or at a decent price. Last case of this I saw was about a year ago and went for about $300. There was one of the lesser wholesalers who had Uly 124 HP, but it was later stuff and and was even more than this. Edited January 4, 2012 by imarangemaster Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted January 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 I've got about five hundred rounds of this in white box without sealant, and newer Wolf MC, too. I wanted this case with the sealant to seal up for long term storage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tony71 0 Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Would you mind sharing the source? I would like to pick up a case as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pjj342 632 Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Hell, i thought I got lucky finding 250rds for 6bucks a box. Mine are all sealed too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Walnutz84 0 Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Good grab!! Aint nothing like opening a 1,000 round box of 7.62 ;-D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted January 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 It was a "one of" on Gunbroker. It was from an estate sale. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 Ah I c what your saying Rangemaster. I guess I just havnt been looking around that much to notice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CPE1704TKS 24 Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 It was a "one of" on Gunbroker. It was from an estate sale. Guess you missed the 660 round can/tin of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted January 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 I did! Oh well, I got my 1,000 to seal up and stash away, and about 1200 of assorted (including some 8M3) for shooting. He just listed another case with the SAPSAN label: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=268068792 If I had the money, I would buy it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tony71 0 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Thank you for sharing the info. GB is no go for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wnycollector 4 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I have read a few threads both here and other forums that the Tulammo 124gr hp ammo is loaded with the 8M3 sapsan bullet. Can anyone confirm this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CPE1704TKS 24 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I have read a few threads both here and other forums that the Tulammo 124gr hp ammo is loaded with the 8M3 sapsan bullet. Can anyone confirm this? Appears to me to be. Have yet to cut one apart, but probing Tulammo 124gr HP has same feel as old Wolf MC 124gr HP. and similar Sapsan ammo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted January 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Tulammo 7.62x39 is made by Ulyanovsk, both 122 FMJ and 124 HP. Tulammo is a marketing name, like Wolf. They have ammo made for them to sell. Wally World sells 122 FMJ fo $4.79 a box, but the 124 HP Tulammo is very scarce. You can find 122 grn HP Tulammo, but it is not made by Uly. I think it is made by Vampyl like Golden Tiger. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CPE1704TKS 24 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Tulammo 7.62x39 is made by Ulyanovsk, both 122 FMJ and 124 HP. Tulammo is a marketing name, like Wolf. They have ammo made for them to sell. Wally World sells 122 FMJ fo $4.79 a box, but the 124 HP Tulammo is very scarce. You can find 122 grn HP Tulammo, but it is not made by Uly. I think it is made by Vampyl like Golden Tiger. I Interestingly, probing appears to indicate the Tulammo 122gr HP might also have internal serations. If I get to dissecting the 124Gr, might as well do the 122gr also. And the Herter's 122gr also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gasper44 3 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Cool find! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
strider12 0 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Tulammo 7.62x39 is made by Ulyanovsk, both 122 FMJ and 124 HP. Tulammo is a marketing name, like Wolf. They have ammo made for them to sell. Wally World sells 122 FMJ fo $4.79 a box, but the 124 HP Tulammo is very scarce. You can find 122 grn HP Tulammo, but it is not made by Uly. I think it is made by Vampyl like Golden Tiger. And this is why I'm here, and why I contributed: The knowledge gained is awesome! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wnycollector 4 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 the 124 HP Tulammo is very scarce. They have it in stock at J&G sales for $210/1000. Here is the link http://www.jgsales.com/7.62x39-tulammo-124gr,-hp,-1000rd-case.-p-6306.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TARE 47 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Do you think the 8m3 sapsan bullet is more effective than a SP in this cartridge? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akastormi 617 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 You know what, I bet I still have some that laying around. My latest was 200 Rds of German M43 heavy steel cores for $20. that's a steel core Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CPE1704TKS 24 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 the 124 HP Tulammo is very scarce. They have it in stock at J&G sales for $210/1000. Here is the link http://www.jgsales.c...se.-p-6306.html Mo' betta than the GB deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted January 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Do you think the 8m3 sapsan bullet is more effective than a SP in this cartridge? WAY more effective! search "8M3" for the different posts.. Guru Gabe Suarez was incredibly impressed with it. It literally explodes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Do you think the 8m3 sapsan bullet is more effective than a SP in this cartridge? Would a soft point mushrooming and cutting a hole that you can fit two fingers through be more effective than a hollow point that explodes and hollows out a fist size hole? 7n6 carries the poison bullet name, but 8m3 might as well be called "El Diablo" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 the 124 HP Tulammo is very scarce. They have it in stock at J&G sales for $210/1000. Here is the link http://www.jgsales.c...se.-p-6306.html its not the sealed cartridge tho, according to the pic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted January 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 the 124 HP Tulammo is very scarce. They have it in stock at J&G sales for $210/1000. Here is the link http://www.jgsales.c...se.-p-6306.html its not the sealed cartridge tho, according to the pic. That only makes it slightly less desirable. It has the 8M3 bullet! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) That only makes it slightly less desirable. It has the 8M3 bullet! Enough complaint emails to Tula might stop the poly crap coating. Attention Tula. The poly coating is garbage and is not helping anything. Please make the same 7.62x39 124 grain hollow point ammunition with laquered cases and mil spec sealant. info@tulammousa.com 110 N. IH-35 Suite 315-PMB #186 Round Rock, TX 78681 888-317-5810 | Fax: 512-218-8473 Edited January 7, 2012 by my762buzz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wnycollector 4 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) the 124 HP Tulammo is very scarce. They have it in stock at J&G sales for $210/1000. Here is the link http://www.jgsales.c...se.-p-6306.html its not the sealed cartridge tho, according to the pic. I just ordered 200 rounds to see how it feeds in my SKS, MAK-90 and Saiga. I will pull a bullet and try to cut it in half. Edited January 7, 2012 by wnycollector Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pjj342 632 Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 the 124 HP Tulammo is very scarce. They have it in stock at J&G sales for $210/1000. Here is the link http://www.jgsales.c...se.-p-6306.html its not the sealed cartridge tho, according to the pic. I just ordered 200 rounds to see how it feeds in my SKS, MAK-90 and Saiga. I will pull a bullet and try to cut it in half. i just found a couple boxes of the tula 124hp. I compared the bases with a sapson 8m3 and a tula 122gr hp. Both tula bullets looked identical, with the sapson being thicker around the bottom edge. Then I cut them all in half, but my camera sucks, and it wouldnt get close enough in to really see anything. The top edges of the hollow points all looked the same, as they had a very small rim on the inside. As you went down you started to see the differences. The 8m3 had interior prefail cuts that went all the way up, and are seperated by little 'scallops' inside of the jacket. The tula's had shorter cuts, and they stopped a little less than a millimeter below the top. The 122 and 124 were very close to identical. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pjj342 632 Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Do you think the 8m3 sapsan bullet is more effective than a SP in this cartridge? WAY more effective! search "8M3" for the different posts.. Guru Gabe Suarez was incredibly impressed with it. It literally explodes. Ive shot a good few sapsons at gallon water jugs, and 122hps, and they both blow up, but the sapson has the edge. when I lined a three up in a row, i was catching some jacket and lead in the third jug. With the 122s Ive never found a scrap. That 8m3 bullet really transfers energy quick, some compare it to a hornady V-max. They explode on impact of soft wet stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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