universal_exports 18 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 sweet, but you cant just put on classic wood grips can you, looks like it needs the front metal piece in front of the forearm grip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
universal_exports 18 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 what about this one, from Atlantic?? its already converted, anything bad I should know? http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct979.aspx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
universal_exports 18 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 how much does it cost to convert the 340 to a pistol grip configuration if I do it myself? that might be the way to go Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dec 8 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 universal_exports ... it all depends on what you want out of a gun and what final configuration that you want it to be in as to which gun is the best way for you to go. You have to break the gun down into three categories. 1) Rear end only conversion. 2) Rear end conversion with front grip conversion. 3) Full rear end and front end conversion. If you want a relatively true AK-74 look then that Waffen Works gun that you linked too is a great gun for the price. Bulgy gun with correct parts for under $650. Waffen Works is known for good builds and good customer service. The gun has no holes to plug/weld shut like a Saiga conversion because it is not a Saiga receiver. If you take the IZ340 that Atlantic posted originally in this thread, the front end conversion is completely done for you, with the exception that the gas block will not have a lug ... which may or may not matter to you. Honestly, the front end conversion is the most difficult part of the whole thing. To get it in an AK-74 format you would have to do the rear end modification, adding $150 or less to the gun. So you are looking in the ball park of $625 or so for the converted gun. Depending on the look you want, you might want to plug or weld holes as well. Really, the price that the IZ340 is listed for is a pretty accurate price considering the cost that you would have in parts for the front end conversion to the base gun. If you take the the bare bones Saiga, you can get the gun and do a basic rear end conversion for probably $500 or less. This will still leave you with a non-converted front end. Convert the front end and you are back at the $625-$650 ball park on the gun. My recent conversion I invested about $750 in the entire gun, but I went for details that are not necessary. Like I said, it all depends on what you want as the finished product and what your budget allows. If you want an out of the box AK74, then that Waffen Works is a heck of a deal, IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chinitowest 0 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) Ben4345 Here is a pic of the threads. And a pic of the thread protector. Mine was tack welded in 4 places. I thought the thread protector was threaded like the Saiga 12. But it was not. Now I need to purchase a brake. What is the thread pattern 24mm? 14x1? thanks Edited February 3, 2012 by chinitowest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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chinitowest 0 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 sweet thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NM0 586 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) Good job cutting the tack welds chinitowest. Looks nice and clean. MARKW1 sells quality Bulgy breaks for a fair price. Many in here buy stuff from him regularly. http://forum.saiga-1...ian-ak74-parts/ Edited February 3, 2012 by NM0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lewie212 37 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Any one know where I can find a US made brake that is comparable to the Russian's for a fair price? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wtjosaas 72 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Got my conversion finished on this model. Thanks to Atlantic and CSS for everything!! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NM0 586 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) Got my conversion finished on this model. Thanks to Atlantic and CSS for everything!! Looks good. Nice job! Edited February 5, 2012 by NM0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
universal_exports 18 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Nice job, that pic put me over the edge and helped me to make a decision, my Order was just placed with Atlantic! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
talaananthes 3 Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Do the IZ 340 models have the correct mil spec trigger and pistol grip holes already cut? What about the current batch of the regular non-front-converted 5.45's? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxtrot Oscar 37 Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 7.62 and 5.45... now I wish they would import em like this for .223 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saiga545 47 Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 7.62 and 5.45... now I wish they would import em like this for .223 +1 You said it brother! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TigerMoses 31 Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Anyone here in Texas, have experience doing the rear conversion, and feels confident doing one for a small or some type of barter. I'm building a Saiga collection, getting one of every caliber, except the 410. At least one I feel should be converted, I'll even buy one to get converted, unless money says I should buy a converted. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kinsel83 1 Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 We just got in a shipment of the NEW Saiga IZ 340 5.45 X 39 rifles , these have the Russian Factory installed front han guards and AK74 front sight block . These also have threads on the front block covered up by a thread protector for import purposes. These are a excellent choice for your Saiga AK74 conversions. Atlantic Firearms.com Widest Selection of AK Firearms in the USA. I want another 5.45 now! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxtrot Oscar 37 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 It's a great price... most people aren't going to save a lot of money for changing out the gas tube and doing the forearm conversion themselves. Plus once you remove the imported stock, trigger, hammer, and sear you are 922r compliant so long as you don't attach an imported muzzle device, but you can always replace the handguard with easily available US made AK furniture. Plus for assault weapons ban states like NY you can permanently attach your brake and then add a pistol grip. Any chance these will be imported like this in .223? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mwc 2 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 ....Any chance these will be imported like this in .223? this ^ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Anyone here in Texas, have experience doing the rear conversion, and feels confident doing one for a small or some type of barter. I'm building a Saiga collection, getting one of every caliber, except the 410. At least one I feel should be converted, I'll even buy one to get converted, unless money says I should buy a converted. Thanks check out tac47. i traded them cash for a superb conversion. thousands of rounds later and not one problem. their work is squared away and on the level! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JCP281 2 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Question for you guys. As mentioned earlier in the thread, I have seen reports of loose front hand guards. How would you fix this? thats really the only thing holding me up from getting a 5.45 model. I am going to pick one up regardless, just not sure if I want the half converted model as it seems a crap shoot on quality. Granted, iv seen more that have a tight fit over not, but still the chance is there. So id like some input on that if anyone could help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulcan16 971 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Anyone here in Texas, have experience doing the rear conversion, and feels confident doing one for a small or some type of barter. I'm building a Saiga collection, getting one of every caliber, except the 410. At least one I feel should be converted, I'll even buy one to get converted, unless money says I should buy a converted. Thanks where in Texas are you located? If you're close to Houston I can help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
talaananthes 3 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Just a report on mine that I got last week: Pistol grip nut hole already cut. Flat trunnion base. Spot welds on thread cover annoyingly close to sight tower. Handguards not even vaguely loose. And . . . Beryl stocks are pure pwnage. That is all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeepranch 16 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Just a report on mine that I got last week: Pistol grip nut hole already cut. Flat trunnion base. Spot welds on thread cover annoyingly close to sight tower. Handguards not even vaguely loose. And . . . Beryl stocks are pure pwnage. That is all. that about sums it, I also couldnt use my safety lever as it was too short, had to use a Bul 74. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
talaananthes 3 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 That's odd. What trigger group? My OEM safety lever dropped back in just fine with an Arsenal trigger. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeepranch 16 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 thought it was odd as well, using a G2 tapco, anyone else have this trouble? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wtjosaas 72 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 I used a G2 with no problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Xitesmai 1 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 (edited) Why don't these have the accessory lug on the gas block for the cleaning rod? Lower handguard has rod holder, and it has the damned bayonet lug on the FSB, but not the other? The bayonet lug had to be ground off due to its presence being listed as a "non sporting". But I'm fairly certain the cleaning rod holder was left in pace. You can buy a replacement FSB with the lug, but you have to have a press to get the old one off, and its a PITA. Edited May 15, 2012 by Xitesmai Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IPSC45 8 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Barrel thread (under the protector)....is 24 x 1.5, RH...... correct? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
talaananthes 3 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Yep. Regular old standard AK74 threading. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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