magsite20 1,664 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) Before we all cry out in outrage about what has been done to these bastards, lets look at their actions. Just google: TALIBAN ATROCITIES or AL QAEDA ATROCITIES. (9/11/2001) Pissing on them was nearly a compliment to this type of shit as it would be to a lot of our people in government. It’s not like they were going to play nice until this video came out they’re still assholes and would attack at any and every opportunity. Lets not forget these are the same type of animals who take great pride in beheading bound prisoners (some videoed) and throwing acid on school girls. Edited January 13, 2012 by 20-Mags 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 All I have to say is why video tape it? That's got to be the dumbest thing ever. And also I heard these guys are/ were sinpers, it sucks casue I'm sure they will be taken out of the fight. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timy 1,185 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Political correctness/respect for the enemy only applies to our side. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mgconnor13 206 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 politicitians and the media play up a few incidents of idioucy by our service members. Lets rewind and look at black water bridge, Mogidisu, or other incident where bodies where drug through the streets, mangled and then hung on display, etc... Even on our worst days we a still far better then then people we're fighting It was a dumb move on those guys part, slap them on the wrist and give them crap burning duty for a couple weeks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iarneau 44 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Our military can't initiate a firefight, if these men were killed it was because they fired at those soldiers first. Killed and pissed on? They got what they deserved, political correctness be damned. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrThunder88 912 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Pissing on them is pretty mild compared to what they deserve. Also, they were dead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobRez 1,895 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) Many factors that a civilian cannot relate to, But if we do not act any better or be more respectful than the enemy, and we resort to low-life behavior, we reduce ourselves to their level. Being an American soldier should mean being held to a higher standard and being the best and most respected armed force in the world. But then we force them to do 3 tours!! We shouldn't be saying "yeah, but look what THEY did!" We should have SOME moral standards that we stick to. So when is DEAD not enough? Do we drag them around the streets next? Really? Deserve has nothing to do with it. edit: you can start throwing tomatoes at me now! Edited January 13, 2012 by RobRez 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigsteel 14 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Typically I believe in honoring my enemy as another soldier. But Taliban are NOT soldiers,they are pathetic and deserve no preferential treatment from me. The atrocities they have committed far outweigh anything we have EVER done. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobRez 1,895 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Typically I believe in honoring my enemy as another soldier. But Taliban are NOT soldiers,they are pathetic and deserve no preferential treatment from me. The atrocities they have committed far outweigh anything we have EVER done. I agree with you, I just don't think it makes it OK for us to behave poorly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 The only thing they did wrong was record it. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 oorah! they dont call us devil dogs for nothing. if the world dont like it, fuck'em. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iarneau 44 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Many factors that a civilian cannot relate to, But if we do not act any better or be more respectful than the enemy, and we resort to low-life behavior, we reduce ourselves to their level. Being an American soldier should mean being held to a higher standard and being the best and most respected armed force in the world. But then we force them to do 3 tours!! We shouldn't be saying "yeah, but look what THEY did!" We should have SOME moral standards that we stick to. So when is DEAD not enough? Do we drag them around the streets next? Really? Deserve has nothing to do with it. edit: you can start throwing tomatoes at me now! Lol, sorry no tomatoes today. I think something like this is an opinion, and as with everything I say "to each his own." I think it's hard to say what I'd do after being in their shoes, if someone tried to kill me, being innocent, I might be mad too. Either way I'm not judging them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILLIEVEE 15 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Many factors that a civilian cannot relate to, But if we do not act any better or be more respectful than the enemy, and we resort to low-life behavior, we reduce ourselves to their level. Being an American soldier should mean being held to a higher standard and being the best and most respected armed force in the world. But then we force them to do 3 tours!! We shouldn't be saying "yeah, but look what THEY did!" We should have SOME moral standards that we stick to. So when is DEAD not enough? Do we drag them around the streets next? Really? Deserve has nothing to do with it. edit: you can start throwing tomatoes at me now! SPLAT!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Our military can't initiate a firefight, if these men were killed it was because they fired at those soldiers first. That's complete bullshit! They can initiate a firefight. Edit: It's called an ambush. Edited January 14, 2012 by MT Predator 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arik 565 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Many factors that a civilian cannot relate to, But if we do not act any better or be more respectful than the enemy, and we resort to low-life behavior, we reduce ourselves to their level. Being an American soldier should mean being held to a higher standard and being the best and most respected armed force in the world. But then we force them to do 3 tours!! We shouldn't be saying "yeah, but look what THEY did!" We should have SOME moral standards that we stick to. So when is DEAD not enough? Do we drag them around the streets next? Really? Deserve has nothing to do with it. edit: you can start throwing tomatoes at me now! +1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 And also I heard these guys are/ were sinpers, it sucks casue I'm sure they will be taken out of the fight. Sources say one of them is back over there in the fight. Maybe they should have videotaped themselves dumping bacon grease on the filthy fuckers instead? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 “As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.” http://www.postonpol...th-war-is-hell/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Rob Rez no tomatoes need be thrown, your opening said it all Many factors that a civilian cannot relate to Lets all just hope that the 75K who just got back last month won't be recalled to the other side of the gulf............ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
going12220 125 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 seems like what ever they do is the "will of God" and we must respect that. anything we do is just "bad Americans" and our government says sorry. piss on them, lets get out and let them go back to killing each other so everyone is happy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 They should have "scalped" them alive instead. Desecrating a corpse is bad mojo for any servicemember. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timy 1,185 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Many factors that a civilian cannot relate to, But if we do not act any better or be more respectful than the enemy, and we resort to low-life behavior, we reduce ourselves to their level. Being an American soldier should mean being held to a higher standard and being the best and most respected armed force in the world. But then we force them to do 3 tours!! We shouldn't be saying "yeah, but look what THEY did!" We should have SOME moral standards that we stick to. So when is DEAD not enough? Do we drag them around the streets next? Really? Deserve has nothing to do with it. edit: you can start throwing tomatoes at me now! Maybe, maybe not. I'm a civilian but have several relatives in the military, one of which is my son who just got out of the Marines. So I will do my best to relate. Overall (just from what I've heard from members of the military) the enemy is given far more respect than they deserve the vast majority of the time. I'm sure you're aware that they use isolated incidents such as this as propaganda tools against a country choking to death on political correctness. Strange that no matter how horrendous the atrocities they commit, they can easily get the entire world (especially the US) worked up over a little American urine. The American military has very high standards of conduct and from what I've heard, almost always meet them. What happened was wrong but still doesn't quite rank up there with what pretty much all our enemies have done to us from day one. Funny how a little piss is equivocal to beheadings, sneak attacks, or death marches. As for me personally, I'd rather be pissed on than dead, and if I was dead I wouldn't give a damn who pissed on me. That's just me though, I don't have an agenda. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Rob Rez no tomatoes need be thrown, your opening said it all Many factors that a civilian cannot relate to Lets all just hope that the 75K who just got back last month won't be recalled to the other side of the gulf............ they will go back when we go to war for iseral in iran 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Typically I believe in honoring my enemy as another soldier. But Taliban are NOT soldiers,they are pathetic and deserve no preferential treatment from me. The atrocities they have committed far outweigh anything we have EVER done. +1 Going toe to toe with a uniformed adversary is one thing but when they have to resort to insurgent tactics and remove the uniform, it's a whole new ball game. These bastards intimidate the population over there and hide behind them when given the chance. Sure there are some locals who support and cover their asses but the good things our troops are doing over there rebuilding the infrastructure outweigh anything that Tommy Taliban can provide. These guys are strapping IEDs on kids to send to up to the Entry Control Point to sell french fries to the troops. They are spineless individuals and pissing on them and hurting someone's feelings should be the least of our worries. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaddis 1,689 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Well, I'm really not into the whole "golden showers" game. But if I got some burning white phosphorus on me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
D.C.MORRISON 494 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 sorry to rain on the hate fest, but we have no good reason to even be in their country. the "graveyard of empires". alexander the great failed there. the british empire got thier lunch eaten. the soviets used extreme brutality for ten years and failed. we have been there over ten years now. blowing away wedding parties with drone missles, using death squads, contaminating everthing with depleted uranium rounds, locking people in shipping containers out in the sun. i can hear the british during our revolution making the same rediculous complaints. they hide behind trees and rocks. they blend in with the populace. many don't even wear uniforms. therefore one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter. so go ahead and vent, call them vile names, hiss and spit. they are not going to just submit. naturally they will use unconventional tactics. just as we would in the same circumstances. as far as pissing on the dead. i see it as not being in control of ones emotions. unprofessional, borderline childish.but not criminal. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timy 1,185 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 sorry to rain on the hate fest, but we have no good reason to even be in their country. the "graveyard of empires". alexander the great failed there. the british empire got thier lunch eaten. the soviets used extreme brutality for ten years and failed. we have been there over ten years now. blowing away wedding parties with drone missles, using death squads, contaminating everthing with depleted uranium rounds, locking people in shipping containers out in the sun. i can hear the british during our revolution making the same rediculous complaints. they hide behind trees and rocks. they blend in with the populace. many don't even wear uniforms. therefore one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter. so go ahead and vent, call them vile names, hiss and spit. they are not going to just submit. naturally they will use unconventional tactics. just as we would in the same circumstances. as far as pissing on the dead. i see it as not being in control of ones emotions. unprofessional, borderline childish.but not criminal. Right or wrong, reality says otherwise about US involvement in the Middle East which is what led to involvement in Afghanistan. The world economic engine runs on petroleum. A basically defunct religion was regenerated by the huge influx of petrodollars. Instead of trying to increase their standard of living they used the massive profits to wage war on Western civilization. The leaders of the 9/11 attack and several earlier ones were based in Afghanistan, effectively ruling the country. That led to US involvement there, admittedly without an exit strategy. I do agree the war there is basically unwinable but no one asked my opinion before going in and I doubt they want it now. I don't have a problem with the enemy hiding behind rocks and using unconventional tactics, nor do I suspect that many others do. That would only be common sense on their part. I do however seriously doubt American revolutionary fighters employed the extremely brutal tactics (especially on their own people) our current opponents do on a daily basis as standard operating procedure. I could be wrong since I haven't researched it but would be surprised if that turned out to be the case. I'm in complete agreement with your last sentence but fear our "leaders" will indeed make it into a criminal prosecution of those involved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 You can say that these Taliban deserved this but that's not the reason it was done. It was done for pure perverse self gratification by these knuckleheads. Just like Abu Ghraib, this kind of shit does nothing but endanger our own soldiers. Like it or not, bullets alone are not going to defeat the Taliban, Al Queda, or terrorism itself. We MUST win the hearts and minds of the people on who's soil the terrorists thrive. Without that we might as well pack it up right now, we've lost. To say that they did this to our guys, so we get to do that to them is childish, it brings us down to their level, and it lets them define the terms under which we are going to fight this war. We ARE better than that, and if we don't act like it we might as well be pissing in the wind. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
going12220 125 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) The topic here is about looking at what brutal crimes they have done not how or why we are there now pissing on their dead bodies. These people are not of the same type as we had here in 1776 they're just murderous scum. They kill their own people by the 1,000s in the name of God, they don't want freedom for all they want people to believe as they do only and follow them without question. Edited January 15, 2012 by going12220 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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