BigChongus 765 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Was surprised to find this inside of a newer box of Uly while at the range. All of my ammo is stored inside (in my bedroom, as a matter of fact) so it wasn't subjected to any excessive moisture or anything. It still fired just fine, but I'd be wary of keeping any polymer coated ammo for longterm storage if it's not sealed or in a spam can. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 how long was it stored for? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigChongus 765 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 About a year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 About a year. hmmm, I have some poly that Ive had for over a year. time to go check. Also, what state are you in if you dont mind me asking. Im in az and its dry as hell out here which might make a diff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigChongus 765 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 PA, so on the humid side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 PA, so on the humid side. bummer dude. Humidity inst my friend. well at least you found it before it got too far along. I wonder if some oil might help for long term??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
modrisco 16 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 PA can get humid. Is your ammo wrapped in a plastic bag, or stored in a container that could provide a barrier? You might try storing some desiccant with it to pull any moisture away it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Even inside a house can be humid enough to corode things. If you dont have it in something sealed like plastic, ammo cans, or some4thing to that effect with dessicant it will do that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sumsky 115 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I have some surplus corosive 7.62X39 ammo in the garage unsealed in brown paper wrappers for 18 years, They still worked. But if I was going to stockpile ammo I would keep them sealed in the Spam Cans inside the wooden crates. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Surplus army ammo cans are great. I use mostly 50 caliber size, but also some 7.62 cans too. Throw in a dessicant pack from the hardware store. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutchsaiga 93 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I have a surplus 20mm can that I use. With my pistol ammo In a fifty cal can Inside. Go to a pharmacy and ask for dessicants my girlfriend works at a pharmacy and says they get thounds in pill boxes and they just throw them away. I have a bunch in my cans and the pull the moisture out wonderfully Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Bedrooms are horrible storage areas! The enviroment is contaminated by moisture from the resperation of the large mammals who live there as well as the dust from shed skin and hair, fibers and dirt off of clothes and probably even nocturnal emissions! Get a more controlled evnviroment to store firearms and ammo! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
devildogdakota 804 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I also use .50 cal ammo cans with a cup of Tidy Cats silica crystals poured in a foot long piece of nylon panty hose stocking that is tied off in a knot on the open end. I fill the ammo cans with 1000 rds., and lay the sock on top of the rounds. Every couple or so months, you can take the stockings out of the cans, and dry them out in an oven on the lowest heat setting for a couple of hours ( I use my dehydrator ). No rust yet! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I bought some new and it looked like that. I'm going to store surplus from nOw on though. I have some poly coated that I've had for a while. Same thing. And it's stored with desiccant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Was surprised to find this inside of a newer box of Uly while at the range. All of my ammo is stored inside (in my bedroom, as a matter of fact) so it wasn't subjected to any excessive moisture or anything. It still fired just fine, but I'd be wary of keeping any polymer coated ammo for longterm storage if it's not sealed or in a spam can. Polycoating is useless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danklab 57 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I've had some poly coated that looked like that. I usually shoot through anything poly before any other ammo I have for that reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 I'm really liking the yugo surplus. Only negative aspect I've noticed is that the primers seem a little hard. Had a couple rounds that failed to fire. Upon comparison with the Tula, the dent did not appear as deep on the yugo as it did on the tula. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigChongus 765 Posted January 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) I'm really liking the yugo surplus. Only negative aspect I've noticed is that the primers seem a little hard. Had a couple rounds that failed to fire. Upon comparison with the Tula, the dent did not appear as deep on the yugo as it did on the tula. I've had the same experience. Out of about 100 rounds I had about 4 FTFs, which is way to high for comfort for me. I'm sticking with Uly from spam cans or Golden Tiger from now on. Edited January 18, 2012 by W8lifter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irishsandman 17 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 I'm really liking the yugo surplus. Only negative aspect I've noticed is that the primers seem a little hard. Had a couple rounds that failed to fire. Upon comparison with the Tula, the dent did not appear as deep on the yugo as it did on the tula. I've had the same experience. Out of about 100 rounds I had about 4 FTFs, which is way to high for comfort for me. I'm sticking with Uly from spam cans or Golden Tiger from now on. Love me some Golden Tiger. so does my AK! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) I put all my ammo is surplus ammo cans, and keep it down in my basement. some of the ammo I bought is 5+ years old, my RPD drums are all loaded and put in a mortar ammo can, not one round shows any signs of rust/corrosion, as with any of my ammo. my suggestion invest in some surplus ammo cans and keep the ammo in that Edited January 18, 2012 by Matthew Hopkins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutalGardener 205 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) Some time, in the near future, I was planning on spending a day on vacuum sealing a bunch of poly coated Wolf Mil Classic with Sapsan bullets that I have. Maybe six boxes per bag, with a desiccant pack? A friend of mine took a box of that stuff out hunting deer with his SKS (yes, I did tell him to buy some nice SPs and yes, he can be a stubborn and cheap dumbass) and when he got back, some rounds were rusted. Edited January 18, 2012 by SpetsnazGRU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GottaGetOuttaNJ 0 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Sportmans guide has had this buy one get one free for awhile now. It is a great deal, especially when they have free shipping w/ no min purchase. Or as a member when they send you 10$ off no min order. http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/used-us-50-cal-ammo-can.aspx?a=805552&pn=2&rid=10&WT.tsrc=AFF&WT.mc_id=k351838 I've got about 10 of these and they are normally in great shape. Fill with ammo, and some dessicant and no more worries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR Young 175 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 I live in North Central PA, and I store in 50 cal ammo cans with dessicant packs. I had the same thing happen as the OP with the rusting steel shells at one point. Not happening anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steelshield 0 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Been shadowing the Saiga-12 forums for a while now, figured I'd finally add something to the discussion. Living on the Gulf Coast as I do, humidity is a big issue down here. I've seen the big dessicant packs go bad in three days in my gun safe (stored in an air-conditioned area), but that may have more to do with my safe's lack of an effective air seal. Need to fix that... Anyway, dessicants have the advantage of being reusable and in an airtight metal container with effective sealing, they appear to work well. An article advocating long-term ammo storage using dessicants: http://survivalblog.com/2008/03/letter-re-advice-on-long-term-1.html Interestingly enough, the author warns against using a vacuum because bullets may become unseated by pressure differentials inside and outside the bullet casing. Any input from vacuum sealers? Reply to above article regarding the use of oxygen absorbers and mylar bags to store ammo: http://survivalblog.com/2008/03/letter-re-advice-on-long-term-2.html Oxygen absorbers and mylar bags are commonly used for long-term food storage, and some of you will likely be familiar with their use. Conclusion: If a weapon or ammo is to be cached, i.e. stored and left alone for years, a suitable container using mylar bags and oxygen absorbers may be ideal. If the stored items may be exposed to air periodically, reusuable dessicants appear to be more effective. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I wonder if some of these are coated at all. I had a batch of Tulammo .223 that was supposed to be poly coated, but it appeared to have no coating at all and had lots of light surface rust, just like the OP. Many of the rounds would get stuck in the chamber. I finally took to polishing each and every round when loading mags. Next, I bought a case of Wolf MC .223. It definitely had a good poly coating and has run flawless so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 There is a product called Bloxigen. It is sold to use in paint and stain cans so they do not set up when storing partial cans long term. Put ammo in zip lock bags and add some Bloxigen. Shield gas from your welder will work too. For your safe, wire two light bases in series and use a thermostat set at 80F with 40W bulbs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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