mslick1 2 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 HOW ACCURATE IS A 7.62X39 SAIGA? I KNOW I WOULD HAVE TO GET GOOD AMMO TO BE ACCURATE ON ANY GUN. AND BY GOOD I MEAN EXPENSIVE! BUT WHAT SHOULD I EXPECT FROM THIS RIFLE AT 100 YARDS? 200? 300? ILL BE GETTING A SAIGA RIFLE SOON SO I WANTED TO KNOW A LITTLE MORE BEFORE I SHOOT IT MYSELF. THANKS! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) FiRsT, I WoUlD TuRn OfF CaPs LoCk . Then I would google, Whats the best brand of 7.62x39 ammo or 7.62x39 accuracy. Google is a great search engine and will bring up numerous reviews from numerous forums. I personally dont know or I would just give you the answer. but here: example: https://www.google.c...iw=1024&bih=653 Best ammo for 7.62x39 siaga? - forum.Saiga-12.com More results from forum.saiga-12.com » best/most reliable 7.62x39 - XDTalk Forums - Your XD/XD(m . Most accurate 7.62x39 brand ammo? - Yahoo! Answers Best 7.62x39 Ammo??? - Gunco.net Russian Golden Tiger 7.62x39 quality - Assaultweb.net Forums Edited January 25, 2012 by AZG 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mslick1 2 Posted January 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 why does every one get offended with the cap locks? i came to http://forum.saiga-12.com because i know this forum is for saiga fans and owners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) why does every one get offended with the cap locks? i came to http://forum.saiga-12.com because i know this forum is for saiga fans and owners. In the land of the internet all caps indicates yelling/shouting Edited January 26, 2012 by HOG76 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 why does every one get offended with the cap locks? i came to http://forum.saiga-12.com because i know this forum is for saiga fans and owners. In the land of the internet all caps indicates yelling/shouting IN THE LAND OF INTERNET, YOU SHOULD JUST FUCKING REALIZE IT'S TEXT ON A SCREEN MAN! Thanks for listening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
universal_exports 18 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) HOW ACCURATE IS A 7.62X39 SAIGA? I KNOW I WOULD HAVE TO GET GOOD AMMO TO BE ACCURATE ON ANY GUN. AND BY GOOD I MEAN EXPENSIVE! BUT WHAT SHOULD I EXPECT FROM THIS RIFLE AT 100 YARDS? 200? 300? ILL BE GETTING A SAIGA RIFLE SOON SO I WANTED TO KNOW A LITTLE MORE BEFORE I SHOOT IT MYSELF. THANKS! just joking, it for what ever reason is considered proper etiquette to not use all caps, all caps is considered yelling, yeah makes no sense to me either. as for your question, a couple of things, good ammo helps to get consistent groups several consider Lapua match grade ammo one of the best, but it cost .50 cents to a dollar a round when you can find it, (gunbroker usually has some someone is selling) you can get good groups with silver wolf or the like (my gun liked Baurnel ammo) but you will get fewer fliers with better ammo. some say 1 out of 10 will be a flier with surplus ammo. 2nd, with the open sights on a gun a tight group is really hard to get, a good 4x or 6x scope will get you much better groups, open sights I can only get 7-8 inch groups but I can get 3 inch groups with a scope. (3 inch groups is 10 rounds to a group) I dont have a saiga, I have a norinco Mak 90, but am getting a saiga and have been checking them out. I would say with a saiga 3 to 4 inch groups would be about average (again this is 10 rounds to a group) if everything is working right and set up properly, good ammo, no wind, good trigger etc. Edited January 26, 2012 by universal_exports 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutchsaiga 93 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 You should expect 2-3moa. That's average with average ammo. Feeding ak premium ammo is like feeding pigs steak tips. I buy whatever idcheap,functional,effective and reliable. No need to go further than that in an ak platform. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 why does every one get offended with the cap locks? i came to http://forum.saiga-12.com because i know this forum is for saiga fans and owners. I wasn't offended. Thus the smily face. It's just easier to read lower case IMO. Didn't mean to get you all pissy. Type in all caps if you want. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 no, dont let anyone here lie to you. DO NOT! Type in all caps or you will be shunned off the internet, except for facebook. That is all. Now how can we help you? Be mad if you like. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 why does every one get offended with the cap locks? i came to http://forum.saiga-12.com because i know this forum is for saiga fans and owners. In the land of the internet all caps indicates yelling/shouting IN THE LAND OF INTERNET, YOU SHOULD JUST FUCKING REALIZE IT'S TEXT ON A SCREEN MAN! Thanks for listening. I don't give a shit if someone types in all caps, I just answered his question. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tram 11 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Wow.. You girls been rolling in the sand today? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scuba Steve SA 1 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 I believe the answer to your question is "23". seeing as though not much else here makes much sense. seriously though, the post a couple of slots up regarding a scope etc is solid advice. at 25meters with irons I am able to get a 3 shot group in 1.5". havnt shot out to 100 yet. but my math tells it it sould probably be 6 - 8 inches at that distance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anthony1 5 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Used as it was designed to be, it is more accurate than most shooters, l can hit a man sized target out to 300yds consistently. Its not a bench rest rifle. I just concentrate on putting all the rounds on a man sized target. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mslick1 2 Posted January 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 why does every one get offended with the cap locks? i came to http://forum.saiga-12.com because i know this forum is for saiga fans and owners. In the land of the internet all caps indicates yelling/shouting IN THE LAND OF INTERNET, YOU SHOULD JUST FUCKING REALIZE IT'S TEXT ON A SCREEN MAN! Thanks for listening. Thank you lol HOW ACCURATE IS A 7.62X39 SAIGA? I KNOW I WOULD HAVE TO GET GOOD AMMO TO BE ACCURATE ON ANY GUN. AND BY GOOD I MEAN EXPENSIVE! BUT WHAT SHOULD I EXPECT FROM THIS RIFLE AT 100 YARDS? 200? 300? ILL BE GETTING A SAIGA RIFLE SOON SO I WANTED TO KNOW A LITTLE MORE BEFORE I SHOOT IT MYSELF. THANKS! just joking, it for what ever reason is considered proper etiquette to not use all caps, all caps is considered yelling, yeah makes no sense to me either. as for your question, a couple of things, good ammo helps to get consistent groups several consider Lapua match grade ammo one of the best, but it cost .50 cents to a dollar a round when you can find it, (gunbroker usually has some someone is selling) you can get good groups with silver wolf or the like (my gun liked Baurnel ammo) but you will get fewer fliers with better ammo. some say 1 out of 10 will be a flier with surplus ammo. 2nd, with the open sights on a gun a tight group is really hard to get, a good 4x or 6x scope will get you much better groups, open sights I can only get 7-8 inch groups but I can get 3 inch groups with a scope. (3 inch groups is 10 rounds to a group) I dont have a saiga, I have a norinco Mak 90, but am getting a saiga and have been checking them out. I would say with a saiga 3 to 4 inch groups would be about average (again this is 10 rounds to a group) if everything is working right and set up properly, good ammo, no wind, good trigger etc. Thanks for your responce. seems like a scope would be a good idea to improve accuracy at long dinstances. any affordable brands you recommend? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) Thanks for your responce. seems like a scope would be a good idea to improve accuracy at long dinstances. any affordable brands you recommend? Alot of people like the 8m3 bullet. discussed in this thread: 124G wolf HP 8M3 bullet? - forum.Saiga-12.com and http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/72605-wpa-military-classic-hp/ and http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/71252-sapson-brand-ammo-124gr-hp/page__p__692033__hl__sapsan__fromsearch__1&do=findComment&comment=692033 Edited January 26, 2012 by AZG 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulcan16 971 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 If You want a more accurate AK, get 20 inch barrel. Longer sight radius then a 16 inch barrel. Both Classic & Centerfire Systems have them in stock, with 1000 meter sights. Classic is advertising the 20's as target Saigas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowFire 220 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I'm just gonna say this. It's prolly been said before. In the end of it all. After all the upgrades and mods and do-hickeys attached or what have you. The rifle and the ammo is only as accurate as the shooter is. Hope you're practicing good fundementals, because that's always the best start. Happy shooting. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mslick1 2 Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I'm just gonna say this. It's prolly been said before. In the end of it all. After all the upgrades and mods and do-hickeys attached or what have you. The rifle and the ammo is only as accurate as the shooter is. Hope you're practicing good fundementals, because that's always the best start. Happy shooting. I agree. Ill need to get good practice to pick up skills Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Eagle 839 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) I posted pics in another thread, but once you get it zeroed, it can be a pretty accurate meat getter or man stopper out to about 150-200 yds. I found out my rear sight was off slightly, thus the hits to the left. That's being corrected as we speak by the local smith. 25 yds off the rest, WWB/tulammo, 10 rounds each(WWB is touching) 50 yds off the rest, WWB ammo after cant found and rifle repositioned: 100 yds off-hand, rapid fire, Tulammo(before I found the sight cant): Edited January 27, 2012 by Lone Eagle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlieschoice 10 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) General comment, but as far as a rifle shooting shooting 1 rd per second shooting mil surplus ammo, the Saiga has shown me it's a pretty darn little accurate rifle. If I'm looking for superb groups (everything in one big hole), I'll reload, use a bolt rifle w/scope and don't overheat the barrel. You want to throw a thousand rounds at a man size target out a distance, if you do your part, at least the Saiga I recently bought will do it's part. For the money, hard to beat IMO. Edited January 27, 2012 by charlieschoice 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Red Star 38 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 i did a range report a while ago showing the accuracy of a 20 inch barrel 7.62 X 39 saiga. Here is a link to the thread i posted in: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/71606-accuracy/page__p__697141__hl__+red%20+star__fromsearch__1&do=findComment&comment=697141 hope that helps Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gasper44 3 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Very accurate, the first time shooting mine. This was with using standard iron sights, russian spam can ammo (TUL equivalent), FMJ. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmqqlZdA86o Edited January 27, 2012 by gasper44 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Eagle 839 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 ^^ This is what we call MOD: Minute Of Dead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mslick1 2 Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I posted pics in another thread, but once you get it zeroed, it can be a pretty accurate meat getter or man stopper out to about 150-200 yds. I found out my rear sight was off slightly, thus the hits to the left. That's being corrected as we speak by the local smith. 25 yds off the rest, WWB/tulammo, 10 rounds each(WWB is touching) 50 yds off the rest, WWB ammo after cant found and rifle repositioned: 100 yds off-hand, rapid fire, Tulammo(before I found the sight cant): Thats pretty cool. I cant wait till I start shooting mine. Thanks for the pics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bullseye57 0 Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I'm just gonna say this. It's prolly been said before. In the end of it all. After all the upgrades and mods and do-hickeys attached or what have you. The rifle and the ammo is only as accurate as the shooter is. Hope you're practicing good fundementals, because that's always the best start. Happy shooting. Bingo Shadow! Just like the guy at the pool hall with the snazzy $1000 pool cue, if he doesn't practise regularly, the ball won't go in the hole often. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CPF 80 Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Thanks for your responce. seems like a scope would be a good idea to improve accuracy at long dinstances. any affordable brands you recommend? If you want a scope that's cheap, reliable, durable, and high quality, I'd recommend getting a good POSP scope in the magnification you would like best. What could be better than a scope that is made for the gun? For the money, POSP's are SO worth it. Pick em up from Eastwave or Kalinka, you can't go wrong with either from what I've heard these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutchsaiga 93 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) Very accurate, the first time shooting mine. This was with using standard iron sights, russian spam can ammo (TUL equivalent), FMJ. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmqqlZdA86o Not trying to be a dick here. But even at that short range I find that group unlikely. I base this solely on stance and stability and the MONSTER flinch when you dropped the hammer on the empty chamber. Sorry to wave the BS flag but when i know I'm right. I'm right. Lean into that damn rifle!!! Edit to add. Not saying you didn't shoot that group and that range which is more than feasible for that rifle. I'm just saying it was not in that video recorded session Edited January 29, 2012 by hutchsaiga 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garys4598 1,065 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 HOW ACCURATE IS A 7.62X39 SAIGA? THANKS! Not AS accurate as a 5.45x39 Saiga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Precise enough even with crappy inaccurate ammo to consistently sail a bullet into someone's eyesocket at 30 yards. Whether someone can make use of that level of precision is based on skill. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gasper44 3 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Very accurate, the first time shooting mine. This was with using standard iron sights, russian spam can ammo (TUL equivalent), FMJ. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmqqlZdA86o Not trying to be a dick here. But even at that short range I find that group unlikely. I base this solely on stance and stability and the MONSTER flinch when you dropped the hammer on the empty chamber. Sorry to wave the BS flag but when i know I'm right. I'm right. Lean into that damn rifle!!! Edit to add. Not saying you didn't shoot that group and that range which is more than feasible for that rifle. I'm just saying it was not in that video recorded session No, it was. First time shooting the Saiga and as explained in my post here and in video that I was quite surprised when I saw what came back to the firing line when bringing the target in. It is a great point and shoot beast. Any stance/reaction was obviously due to the first experience of her power compared to the handgun I shot minutes before. Would I have the same results at an outdoor range at a much further distance? Who knows. I have no reason to lie or make stories up to be "cool" on the internet. I posted the video because I am exceptionally happy with the accuracy of the weapon as I have shot some rentals and friend's weapons that were way off target with us all giving them a try. So yea, Cool story bro. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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