ramlake 98 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 I bought one last year and have not seen them for sale since? I wonder how many were sold? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chris71 12 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 does it work? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramlake 98 Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 does it work? The LRBHO device? Yes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chris71 12 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 where did you buy it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramlake 98 Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 where did you buy it? Kvar about 1 year ago with 1ea. rock in style LRBHO 5 rd non magwell same LRBHO device as 030 / IZ-433 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedal2alloy 206 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Kvar imported a batch of them but that was it. The problem was, that the Russian LRBHO system was designed to be used in conjunction with the magwell, but these didn't come with one. See, the tab that triggers the BHO hangs down into the mag area, so it works with straight in/out mag insertion (magwell type). The rock and lock mags can sometimes snag on the tab, and there were some problems reported with that. Ideally, if more of them get imported like that, you would just adapt a magwell to them and they would be great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramlake 98 Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Kvar imported a batch of them but that was it. The problem was, that the Russian LRBHO system was designed to be used in conjunction with the magwell, but these didn't come with one. See, the tab that triggers the BHO hangs down into the mag area, so it works with straight in/out mag insertion (magwell type). The rock and lock mags can sometimes snag on the tab, and there were some problems reported with that. Ideally, if more of them get imported like that, you would just adapt a magwell to them and they would be great. That seems strange to me because the rear of the follower contacts the lever almost exactly the same point everytime on the magwell mag and rock and locks? I have had no problems. On the magwell you don't so much have to adapt but install. 2 small rectangular openings beside the mag release and a slot in the front of reciever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedal2alloy 206 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Kvar imported a batch of them but that was it. The problem was, that the Russian LRBHO system was designed to be used in conjunction with the magwell, but these didn't come with one. See, the tab that triggers the BHO hangs down into the mag area, so it works with straight in/out mag insertion (magwell type). The rock and lock mags can sometimes snag on the tab, and there were some problems reported with that. Ideally, if more of them get imported like that, you would just adapt a magwell to them and they would be great. That seems strange to me because the rear of the follower contacts the lever almost exactly the same point everytime on the magwell mag and rock and locks? I have had no problems. On the magwell you don't so much have to adapt but install. 2 small rectangular openings beside the mag release and a slot in the front of reciever. The contact point is the same when the mag is locked in, but I think it is possible to insert the rock-and-lock mag in a limp-wristed manner (short-stroke it?) where the mag can come in contact with the tab and bend it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramlake 98 Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Kvar imported a batch of them but that was it. The problem was, that the Russian LRBHO system was designed to be used in conjunction with the magwell, but these didn't come with one. See, the tab that triggers the BHO hangs down into the mag area, so it works with straight in/out mag insertion (magwell type). The rock and lock mags can sometimes snag on the tab, and there were some problems reported with that. Ideally, if more of them get imported like that, you would just adapt a magwell to them and they would be great. That seems strange to me because the rear of the follower contacts the lever almost exactly the same point everytime on the magwell mag and rock and locks? I have had no problems. On the magwell you don't so much have to adapt but install. 2 small rectangular openings beside the mag release and a slot in the front of reciever. The contact point is the same when the mag is locked in, but I think it is possible to insert the rock-and-lock mag in a limp-wristed manner (short-stroke it?) where the mag can come in contact with the tab and bend it. I just looked and the mag cannot be inserted any further than stops / ribs on mag allow I see no way the mag can damage tab and because it moves upward it further looks like the mag itself cannot contact in any way to damage it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedal2alloy 206 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Kvar imported a batch of them but that was it. The problem was, that the Russian LRBHO system was designed to be used in conjunction with the magwell, but these didn't come with one. See, the tab that triggers the BHO hangs down into the mag area, so it works with straight in/out mag insertion (magwell type). The rock and lock mags can sometimes snag on the tab, and there were some problems reported with that. Ideally, if more of them get imported like that, you would just adapt a magwell to them and they would be great. That seems strange to me because the rear of the follower contacts the lever almost exactly the same point everytime on the magwell mag and rock and locks? I have had no problems. On the magwell you don't so much have to adapt but install. 2 small rectangular openings beside the mag release and a slot in the front of reciever. The contact point is the same when the mag is locked in, but I think it is possible to insert the rock-and-lock mag in a limp-wristed manner (short-stroke it?) where the mag can come in contact with the tab and bend it. I just looked and the mag cannot be inserted any further than stops / ribs on mag allow I see no way the mag can damage tab and because it moves upward it further looks like the mag itself cannot contact in any way to damage it? Yeah, I guess somebody had to get creative to figure out a way to do it wrong, but apparently, if you don't hook the front of the mag in very well, and then sweep the rear of the mag up, it can get behind the tab and then some forward motion can occur that can bend it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tofu1998 2 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 I just removed the LRBHO lever an hour ago. It gave me nothing but headache. Not the gun functions like a standard Saiga-12. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramlake 98 Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 So from the responses only a very few were bought? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedal2alloy 206 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 So from the responses only a very few were bought? Only a small number were imported Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 If you put an aftermarket magazine in the gun, it held the bolt open all the time. I don't recall exactly what happened, but even with the factory 5rd mag that came with the gun, it would sometimes fuck up and jam the BHO. I've only had a couple through the shop, so they could not have imported many in that configuration. Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) Kvar imported a batch of them but that was it. The problem was, that the Russian LRBHO system was designed to be used in conjunction with the magwell, but these didn't come with one. See, the tab that triggers the BHO hangs down into the mag area, so it works with straight in/out mag insertion (magwell type). The rock and lock mags can sometimes snag on the tab, and there were some problems reported with that. Ideally, if more of them get imported like that, you would just adapt a magwell to them and they would be great. I installed a "k" magwell in mine yesterday. Only one mag came with the IZ-109BHO shotgun and I couldn't get any more. Now I can still use my factory LRBHO. Now the factory rock and lock LRBHO mag can go to someone who only has one mag. Edited February 7, 2012 by ARMOR 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chisell 2 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Does anybody know how much these models go for now? I have a new in box one that I want to sell. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 ever sell it????! 2020 wants to know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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