saiga12-er 5 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 While waiting on my tax check to pay for the balance on my new Saiga 12 I have been reading up on Saiga's and have come across info pertaining to "922r". I know (in short) it is pertaining to U.S. made parts etcetera, but what is the big concern once the gun is bought and what the owner does with it aside from converting it to full-auto? Especially here in the U.S. (Indiana) Thanks, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 No concern at all, it's not like it's a law....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 If you piss off the wrong officer - it is a Federal charge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FunkedOut 91 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 if you convert the weapon from it's "sporter" configuration to an "non-sporting" configuration, you need to make sure the weapon has a maximum of 10 foreign parts. the conversion to a "non-sporting" config can be as simple as inserting a magazine with capacity higher than 5 shells. i'm not a lawyer, do your own research. don't take my word for it. these links might help you understand 922r better: http://gunwiki.net/Gunwiki/BuildSaigaShotgunVerifyCompliance http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/forum/65-saiga-922r-compliance-the-law/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Basically, its a violation of federal law if you put anything cool on a foreign gun unless the cool on part is made in America, there's a bit more to it but that's pretty much the just of it... No one has ever been charged with violating it to date... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
physicsnerd 139 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Basically, its a violation of federal law if you put anything cool on a foreign gun unless the cool on part is made in America, there's a bit more to it but that's pretty much the just of it... No one has ever been charged with violating it to date... Good summary. Railed forearm? Need to be compliant. Muzzle brake? Need to be compliant. Pistol grip? Need to be compliant. Magazine greater than 5 rounds? Need to be compliant. Basically you could replace the factory monte carlo stock with another, or the "sporting" forearm for another "sporting" forearm but beyond that you have to be compliant. It sucks because it is completely arbitrary and made even more asinine because it only applies to imported guns so nothing about this even has to do with curtailing "evil" features. It is just a means to make ownership of firearms more onerous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saiga12-er 5 Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 if you convert the weapon from it's "sporter" configuration to an "non-sporting" configuration, you need to make sure the weapon has a maximum of 10 foreign parts. the conversion to a "non-sporting" config can be as simple as inserting a magazine with capacity higher than 5 shells. i'm not a lawyer, do your own research. don't take my word for it. these links might help you understand 922r better: http://gunwiki.net/G...erifyCompliance http://forum.saiga-1...liance-the-law/ Thanks for setting me straight. I apologize for not doing a search on the subject first. However I totally underestimated the importance of 922r and somewhat figured there would be nothing on it. Wrong assumption - huh? Considering this is by no means my first gun forum, it is however very out of character for me to assume something and not search for "pinned/stickies" before posting. I am glad so many people replied, because if not, I may had likely went with the first reply (I at first thought it to be sincere) and who knows how long I may have been in error before I learned the facts. Thanks, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fauxknight 30 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Fortunately it is a very easy law to comply with, just make sure that you have enough US made parts on hand before you do anything. Post conversion most Saigas are hard to make not compliant, but if you aren't converting it's a much finer line to pay attention to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ultra7350 21 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 How about if u r a felon and you are already breaking the law for having guns. Do you think you still have to worry about being 922r compliant since you r already breaking the law? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fauxknight 30 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 How about if u r a felon and you are already breaking the law for having guns. Do you think you still have to worry about being 922r compliant since you r already breaking the law? Actually yes, because it's one less charge for them to tack on once they catch you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
universal_exports 18 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 http://gunwiki.net/Gunwiki/BuildSaigaShotgunVerifyCompliance this link here is a great tool to decide if you have replaced enough parts, but remember, its not how many US parts you add, but how many forein parts you replace, ie, if the gun came without a muzzle brake, adding a US made one does not help at all. you still have "x" number of forein parts on the gun, you did not replace one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 It is illegal to assemble an "assault" weapon with more than 10 foreign parts (of the 20 on the ATF list), but it is not illegal to possess it. I am not sure if that is entirely true or not, but that statement came from an ATF enforcement officer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Well, that's a horse of a different color... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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