angarcia9 3 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Hey all, I have been reading over the 922 issues and I am confused. I need help to understand what I can and need to modify on my new Saiga to make it legal. Below is a picture of the Saiga I bought this past weekend....I had them add the quad rails while I was there. It came with a 5 round mag but they also gave me a 10 round mag. I want to make sure it is legal so I need to know what I need to do to it... Last night I ordered this Tapco Intrafuse stock set which I understand is fine because it was made in USA?.... below is link http://dpharms.com/p...28black~29.html as well as this Phantom flash hider which was also made in USA? ....below is link http://dpharms.com/p...lash_hider.html so once I recieve those and change out the butt factory stock and put on the Intrafuse then add the flash hider, how many imported parts will I have and are there any others that I need to modify? I am a newbie and I need clarifications because I am all paranoid now about legality issues. I really appreciate it everyone --Amanda Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Razr 23 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Congrats on your new Saiga! Stock gives you 1 part, USA made magazine 3 parts, handguard - 1 part (make sure it's made in the USA though) and flash hider is 1 part also. You have 9 foreign parts. Should be legal. Just make sure you don't use factory magazine. If you are planning to do full conversion that will give you 3-4 more compliant parts (FCG and gas puc/piston). Follow this link to verify http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/31710-922r-compliance-automatic-checklist/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fallschirmjager667 729 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) your gun can only have 10 foreign parts, here's a check list for a standard ak, uncheck each part you have replaced with a us made part and add 1 to your total since a saiga 12 has a separate op rod and gas piston http://thegunwiki.co...erifyCompliance also uncheck any part your gun does not have (pistol grip) from your picture it looks like you need to replace one part like a muzzle device or gas puck to be compliant Edited February 14, 2012 by Russian Hammer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sneaky 2 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Lots of info and links here: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/72849-parts-count-for-saiga-12-has-changed/page__p__710101__hl__+922r%20+parts%20+count__fromsearch__1#entry710101 Once u use the 10 mag or anything not stock out of the box you need to be 922r compliant. Which in a nut shell is having less than 10 russian/improrted parts on it (from my understanding) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chris71 12 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 did you buy it at the gun show in chantilly last weekend? It was crazy busy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
angarcia9 3 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 did you buy it at the gun show in chantilly last weekend? It was crazy busy Yes I did!! I have wanted a Saiga for a long time and "Gary's Guns & Transfers" had one at their stand and it was too hard to pass up. I am just stressed out now because I want to make sure it is compliant. Congrats on your new Saiga! Stock gives you 1 part, USA made magazine 3 parts, handguard - 1 part (make sure it's made in the USA though) and flash hider is 1 part also. You have 9 foreign parts. Should be legal. Just make sure you don't use factory magazine. If you are planning to do full conversion that will give you 3-4 more compliant parts (FCG and gas puc/piston). Follow this link to verify http://forum.saiga-1...atic-checklist/ Alright I guess I am just going to have to check when I get home that the 10 round mag is USA made and also check the quad rails (which is handguard I assume) to make sure it is US made... other than that, when I recieve and put on the Tapco stock set and flash hider I attached links to above I should be straight, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ronin38 2,117 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Welcome to the forum and congrats on the new Saiga! It sounds like you're just one or two parts away from being clear of any issues. Just don't wave it around at the mall and you should be fine! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) The 10rd mag you have looks like a Pro Mag which equals 3 US parts. AFAIK, There is only one foreign magazine thats not a factory Russian piece and that is the "MaxRounds" drum. All other magazines available for the S12 aside from those 3 are US made like SGM, AGP, MDArms, ProMag. I could be mistaken but i dont recall any other (mass produced) magazines available for the S12. Edit, i just remembered the knock off of factory 5rd mags, those are foreign as well. Common sensus is dont use a magazine as part of your compliance parts count. As soon as that factory 5 goes into the gun, you are now illegal. Edited February 14, 2012 by Mullet Man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
angarcia9 3 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Thanks for advice everyone.... well, I ordered the Tapco stock set already and my friend has it on his and really likes it so I think I am going to put it on. I am concerned about 922 compliance issues though.... Since mine is threaded barrel I understand I have 14 foreign parts.... Therefore ....with new Tapco stock set on it, flash hider that i put link to above (US made) and a US made 10 round mag then I should be at 9 foreign parts and compliant with 922? I also had US made quad rails put on upon purchase. I am unsure if those count for something. Someone let me know if I am set. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TapeWorm3 104 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) The 10rd mag you have looks like a Pro Mag which equals 3 US parts. AFAIK, There is only one foreign magazine thats not a factory Russian piece and that is the "MaxRounds" drum. All other magazines available for the S12 aside from those 3 are US made like SGM, AGP, MDArms, ProMag. I could be mistaken but i dont recall any other (mass produced) magazines available for the S12. Edit, i just remembered the knock off of factory 5rd mags, those are foreign as well. Common sensus is dont use a magazine as part of your compliance parts count. As soon as that factory 5 goes into the gun, you are now illegal. .----noticed your edit Edited February 14, 2012 by TapeWorm3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chris71 12 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Your gonna love it. I love mine so much I bought another one! The only bad thing is the place I shoot it is an hour from my home in Loudoun co. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fallschirmjager667 729 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 just for future reference, next time i ask a question on here, i am a woman 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 You will be good AS LONG AS you ONLY use American made mags. If you decide to pop the old Russian 5 rounder back in, due to the changed stock, it's no longer "sporting" and you'll be non-compliant once again. Just something to point out though, there hasn't been one case of 922r non-compliance charges brought up against anyone to date... I'm not saying to be non-compliant on purpose, I'm just saying that it's incredibly hard to prove in court if you popped the old Russian 5 rounder in it in that configuration unless of course it's in pictures or video... I like the fact that you chose to go flash hider instead of puck. It shows that you don't want to screw with what already works, until you find out if it works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
headshot 52 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I work in centreville. I could help out if needed. Not being creepy..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spicoli 12 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 This might help http://jobson.us/922r/ If you need a class 3 dealer, a good friend of mine lives in Fairfax City. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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