gunfun 3,930 Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 January 2011 was the last word. I think MD has learned not go give delivery dates he can't guarantee that he will meet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
srupp23 2 Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 This is definately coming to market. Multiple capacities. Will take both 2 3/4 and 3". Is it OK if I still have hope? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,930 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Yep. The clue will be patent renewals. And if he doesn't, the patent discloses the best method, and makes it public domain, so one way or another. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I just noticed that he is no longer a business member here, so there went some of that hope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 abandon all hope.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KevenW 4 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Why would he stop his business membership here? Isnt this probably his biggest customer base? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Why would he stop his business membership here? Isnt this probably his biggest customer base? He went to a distributor base a year or two back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 There was some good info in his sub-forum, which still existed the last time I looked, not too long ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dustindu4 101 Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Yep. The clue will be patent renewals. And if he doesn't, the patent discloses the best method, and makes it public domain, so one way or another. And patent renewals/maintenance is very expensive Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 best prank ever! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,184 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I abandon all hope with the resurrection of NECROTHREADS!! Jeezus people... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I bumped this thread for two reasons, mainly because there is not much going on here anymore(this sub forum) and I was getting a little nostalgic looking at old threads. Secondly, because I recognized that MDarms is no longer a business member here and thought it a little odd that nothing had been mentioned about it. I could have started a new thread but that didn't seem to make much sense. So here we are, and now everyone knows that the MDarms forum has disappeared, along with all of the good info that was there, as well as any hope that doublestacks would one day be a reality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 It is really unfortunate that the sub forum was deleted. It would be nice if the threads were moved somewhere, instead of just throwing all the info away. This forum is definately on the decline, and the more info that is removed the less traffic this forum will receive. The less trafic that there is, the less business members there will be, which will lead to less information, which will lead to less trafic....... It reminds me of Blk-Hwk Vet, (50% tactical), he used to post some entertaing vids on here, but he was told to stop because "he was running a business" or something, now he doesn't post anymore, it is a problem that compounds itself. The downward spiral..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 The other problem is that MD arms will likely maintain their patents even if they don't have the ability to produce.. So its going to be about 18 more years before anyone can build them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedal2alloy 206 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 The other problem is that MD arms will likely maintain their patents even if they don't have the ability to produce.. So its going to be about 18 more years before anyone can build them. Then I propose that there be a merger between Csspecs and MD Arms. It would be like the meeting of Smith and Wesson 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I was stating a fact not an interest. If they keep the patent it prevents the item from being produced if they are not going to make it happen themselves. With SGM making the double to single stack 54R magazine, either they function differently or they made a deal. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 The other problem is that MD arms will likely maintain their patents even if they don't have the ability to produce.. So its going to be about 18 more years before anyone can build them. It would be real nice if MD would sell the rights off, it could provide a nice income stream for him if he worked a good deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weaponx 18 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Would keeping the patent cost more money ? In other words for him to sell them/rights would be more profitable to him right ? This whole quad mag thing is a weird crazy ride Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyE 80 Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Patent maintenance fees are nothing compared to the legal costs of getting the patent in the first place. It's pretty cheap keeping a patent alive. Of course, someone may design a work-around that makes a patent nearly worthless. That's the risk of sitting on your hands. On the other hand, a patent-holder who does not manufacture the item himself might license the technology to a manufacturer for a fee. Maybe Mike is thinking about that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weaponx 18 Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 I hope he does , that would be great. It would be alittle strange to me to let it die. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,930 Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 I abandon all hope with the resurrection of NECROTHREADS!! Jeezus people... It provides info people are still interested in. IMO Old thread with info is better than new thread rehashing the same thing, by people who are new to the plaftorm and don't really know how things work. Institutional memory is good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I abandon all hope with the resurrection of NECROTHREADS!! Jeezus people... IMO Old thread with info is better than new thread rehashing the same thing, by people who are new to the plaftorm and don't really know how things work. Institutional memory is good. indeed, necrothreading as a negative is a concept purported by 12 year old acne prone types. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barnetmill 1 Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) The other problem is that MD arms will likely maintain their patents even if they don't have the ability to produce.. So its going to be about 18 more years before anyone can build them. In theory mag production can be licensed by the patent holder, but in the real Saiga world that will be most unlikely to happen. Every mag made under license would likely cut into the sales of drum magazines. There is likely not enough market and profit margin out there. So far american police dept are not big into Saigas, So if I want a mag with a lot of shells it will likely be a drum. I think the new 8 shot steel mag will great as is. My main use of a shotgun is when less range and penetration is needed or for moving game at closer ranges. I still prefer PDWs, carbines, and rifles otherwise. Edited February 8, 2014 by barnetmill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Drum sale. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zombiehunter762 376 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Just got the same email ^^^^^ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NM0 586 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Drum sale. Thanks for info. Finally going to have one now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Me too, I was just about to order one, so this is perfect timing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Einstein69 8 Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 ^^ x4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
S12KS-K 40 Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 I hope he does , that would be great. It would be alittle strange to me to let it die. They can't even get the feed angle for the VERP/030 right and you want them to start investing time and materials in a double stack mag for rimmed cartridges? LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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