TX-Zen 287 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) I started a red dot battery test two weeks ago and have been keeping track of the results on http://russianoptics.net/Battery.html The test began Sunday 4/1/2012 at 09:00, this first run is for MAX brightness Batteries used are Duracell 3v DL 1/3N Lithium Battery Model 10315 (CR357 style), Duracell AAA Model MN24000 and Duracell 1.5v AA Model MN1500 (good old copper tops). The plan was to check the brightness twice a day and record the results. After the max brightness test is complete I'll try to run it again on about 75% brightness and see where they end up. The optics are being left in the garage and subject to daily temperature changes. While I don't count this as field conditions it's better than sitting in the house under air conditioning all day. Test includes these optics (Kobra had a failure and is not part of the test now) DL 1/3N models PK01-Vi PK-AS PK23 PK-A (Original grey model) AA models Kobra EKP-1S-03M (Dot and Chevron reticule) PK01-VS PK01-VM PK-A (Venezuelan grey model) AAA model PK01-V More info on the red dots here As of 4/15/12 the results are: PK01-V.......................14 days and still on PK01-VS....................14 days and still on PK-A Venezuelan.....14 days and still on PK23...........................80 hours PK-A original.............96 hours PK01-Vi......................96 hours PK01-VM...................120 hours PK-AS........................125 hours Kobra: Not tested Z Edited April 15, 2012 by TX-Zen 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrThunder88 912 Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Very impressive performance. Good test too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jswledhed 57 Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Very cool. So maybe the flickering reticle on the 23 is hard on batteries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Love your site Zen! You should publicize it more! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted April 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 17.5 days PK01-V, PK01-VS and PK-A Venezuela That's 420 hours, all 3 optics have exceeded their published specs Love your site Zen! You should publicize it more! Thanks Working on it, takes time to get the word out. Still trying to figure out search engine optimization Z Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Very cool. So maybe the flickering reticle on the 23 is hard on batteries. Evidently. I'll have to toss in a fresh set of batteries and confirm this for myself. Remember though, that Zen's results are based on constant MAX brightness which is rarely if ever necessary to actually use on the PK-23; in part because of the blinking reticle, which naturally attracts the eye. All that said, ~80 hrs off a couple small, cheap batteries ain't bad. Also, I use my 23 on a qd mount, (which it came with), so I can't imagine it'd ever be a problem. Thank you for the data, Zen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted April 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Very cool. So maybe the flickering reticle on the 23 is hard on batteries. Evidently. I'll have to toss in a fresh set of batteries and confirm this for myself. Remember though, that Zen's results are based on constant MAX brightness which is rarely if ever necessary to actually use on the PK-23; in part because of the blinking reticle, which naturally attracts the eye. All that said, ~80 hrs off a couple small, cheap batteries ain't bad. Also, I use my 23 on a qd mount, (which it came with), so I can't imagine it'd ever be a problem. Thank you for the data, Zen. +1 to this, in practice I think PK23 would work fine at much lower brightness than other dots precisely because of the flickering and that will get you more than 80 hours continuous at max. In actuality the PK23 dimmed noticeably in the first two/three days but the flickering dot is exactly why it was still usable. Also +1 to the QD, IMO it's a good idea for any optic to be QD in the event of big trouble. This is why I like side rail optics that block the irons because it's a couple seconds tops to remove the optic if it goes tits up. And continuing to sound like a broken record, but PK01-V, PK01-VS and PK-A Venezuela still going strong. 18.5 days, 445 hours as of 10pm CST tonight Z Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted April 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 PK01-VS and PK-A Venezuela: 21 days / 504 hours I think PK01-V is too faint to acquire the dot against light backgrounds in full sunlight as of 4/22/12. I'd call it 500 hours under any conditions. The dot is still usable against most contrasting backgrounds but not very light ones. I'll keep the test running to see when the dot fades out. PK01-VS is super bright and PK-A Venezuela starting to fade against light backgrounds in full sunlight Z Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joshman 4 Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 wow, that is incredible! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Still going 24 days / 583 hours 16:00 CST PK01-VS and PK-A Venezuela Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Great post, thanks and nice site as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted April 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Thanks 0800am CST PK01-VS and PK-A Venezuela at 28 days / 671 hours Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 tx-zen, you are awesome man...wanna let me test the batteries on that obzor for you ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) Beef!!! Speaking of Obzor, how about we test muzzle flash Edited May 2, 2012 by TX-Zen 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted May 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 17:00 CST 31 days / 752 hours PK01-VS and PK-A Venezuela still going PK01-V became too faint to see the dot at all on 1MAY12 Z Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 That is almost to hard to believe, If you had not showed this I would not believe it. Thanks much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted May 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 And still going 33 days / 804 hours 21:00 CST PK01-VS and PK-Venezuela Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutchsaiga 93 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Wow! Awesome post TX and awesome website as well Thanks for taking your time to do these tests and post results. Ps. Very very very jealous of you're collection of Russian optics! I'll give you my info so you can put me down as the beneficiary;)!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 ^ lol 43 days / 1041 hours as of 1800 CST today Z Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 1000+ hours, is this the norm? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted June 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 08JUN12 68 days / 1645 hours 22:00 CST PK01-VS and PK-A Venezuela 02JUN12 62 days / 1500 hours 21:00 CST PK01-VS and PK-A Venezuela 29MAY12 58 days / 1402 hours 19:00 CST PK01-VS and PK-A Venezuela 25MAY12 54 days / 1307 hours 20:00 CST PK01-VS and PK-A Venezuela 21MAY12 50 days / 1211 hours 20:00 CST PK01-VS and PK-A Venezuela 1200+ hours at max brightness 1000 hours is not the norm for any Russian red dot I've seen yet except these two. This has been an interesting test and an eye opener Z Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 That is so unreal and so hard to take. If someone had told me on the street about this I would just grin and walk away. To me "seeing" your test makes much easier to take in and believe. Thank you very much!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 23JUN12 83 days / 2004 hours 21:00 CST and counting: PK01-VS PK-A Venezuelan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 UNREAL, thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warthog35F 11 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 were can i find the russian kobra red dot sight? does it bother the 922r? and how much would one run me? Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LESchwartz 9 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Eastwave has Kobras for $419, but their shipping cost is awful. Kalinka has them for $449, but they will ship for around $12. Too bad you just missed Kalinka's 15% off sale which would have taken about $65 off their price . . . still too rich for my likes though. Perhaps you can call them and ask "what happened to your 15% of sale?", maybe they will still give you the sale price. Sights should not present any 922® concerns. Larry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted August 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 12AUG12 134 days / 3228 hours 21:00 CST and counting: PK-A Venezuelan PK01-VS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted August 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Update: PK-A Venezuela and PK01-VS are both still running, 146 days or 3516 hours as of 24AUG12 2100 CST Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted September 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Yesterday evening the battery test was completed, with PK-A Venezuela becoming the winner of the red dot test. The test was started on April 1st at 09:00 CST (Not an April Fools joke) and PK-A Venezuela lasted 157 days at maximum brightness before the battery finally died. The runner up is PK01-VS at 153 days. Both of these are AA powered optics and are two of the most modern ones that I know of. I have to say I'm surprised at how long these two optics lasted at max brightness. My previous experience was that most of them seemed to day around 4-5 days but it's pretty evident the power technology has dramatically improved in these latest optics. As I always say I still prefer the collimator types over the red dots but these two are very impressive to say the least. Both are rare but I'm hoping we may see them imported more regularly in the future. *My Kobra was not tested due to circuitry issues. (A good test is HERE) PK-A Venezuela - 157 days / 3768 hours PK01-VS - 153 days / 3672 hours EKP-1S-03M - 37 days / 900 hours PK01-V - 21 days / 500 hours PK-AS - 125 hours PK01-VM - 120 hours PK-A original - 96 hours PK01-Vi - 96 hours PK23 - 80 hours Full Test Thread More info on the red dots here Z 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toparsenal.net 0 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Impressive test! toparsenal.net Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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