AOW s12 allowed in Mi ?

[brad cole 65]

hello everyone I have tried to use the search, and found a start but no answer to the question of AOW S12 allowed in MI. Im sure its there but i am technically uninclined in computers. any answers or help would be appreciated. thank you.

[haugpatr 972]

They are allowed in Michigan, Tom Cole of Cadiz Gun Works makes them, they are called the Widow Maker I believe. Tom is a business member here, check out his sub forum.

[Fallschirmjager667 729]

for the price of the s12 AOW you can afford to get a house in a place that allows sbs

[haugpatr 972]

At least the transfer tax is only $5, that will help a little bit, I think the Widow Maker is $2500, it is just nice that these are available as options for people in shitty states. Tom is a hell of a nice guy as well!

[YARP 300]

Yes.

[brad cole 65]

thank you, now for the next question is there a way one can legally (atf form#) make one . I have tired to find this also but cant. I found something about having to make a new receiver but not clear if that is only one piece of the pie . again thank you

[obiwanbonjovi 337]

you would have to construct a new receiver, and the stamp is $200 to manufacture one. only $5 to transfer.

 

thank you, now for the next question is there a way one can legally (atf form#) make one . I have tired to find this also but cant. I found something about having to make a new receiver but not clear if that is only one piece of the pie . again thank you

[brad cole 65]

great that sounds a lot cheaper than $2500. Im thinking of making a milled receiver . I figure by the time I mill the receiver any paperwork would be done. (my 2 kids, 50 chickens,horses, dogs, barn cats and wife dont leave me much time in my shop). I beleive I found that its a form 1 to manufacture, then a form 4 to transfer to trust.

Edited April 19, 2012 by shankkole

[rjrivero 50]

thank you, now for the next question is there a way one can legally (atf form#) make one . I have tired to find this also but cant. I found something about having to make a new receiver but not clear if that is only one piece of the pie . again thank you

You need a receiver that has never been built with a stock. Therefore, you'd either have to make your own, or get Tom Cole to sell you one. Then you would need to have a donor shotgun that you could use for the parts to make your AOW.

[brad cole 65]

I would be taking my perfectly running gun then taking it apart

[haugpatr 972]

Good luck on making your own receiver, that would be quite an accomplishment if you could mill one. A milled S-12 would be really cool! I believe the ATF allows you to de-mill the original receiver and then re-weld it to create an AOW, I am not sure where I read this but I believe it to be true.

[brad cole 65]

man now I'm getting excited should I go AMD style or krink like, obviosly minus the stock

[jmacken37 4]

AOW's are legal. $200 to make and $5 to transfer is correct. Make your reciever and then have a manufacturer with an SOT paper it for you. Even if they charged you $100, you'd still be ahead of the game. Last I heard Tom is still waiting on approval for his receivers from the ATF. I got a FA S12 so I could have a short barreled shottie in Michigan. Stupid rules!

 

Jake