JimmyThompson 1 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Are they as advertized? Can they really be the solution to "dialing in" my ammo? So I can stagger my mags (low-brass, high-brass, slug, low-brass, etc) and it function properly or is it a gimmick? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Well, yes, if the gun is properly gassed for the ammo you're using. Two other things: the recoil pulse is also the same no matter what you are shooting at the time and it also blows crud and fouling out of the gas block when it vents pressure. I am DEFINITELY a satisfied user! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyThompson 1 Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Properly gassed? I thought that was the Auto-Plug's job? Its not just a screw in part that adjusts the gas requirements itself? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Yes and no, IF your ports aren't the correct size there won't be enough pressure in the gas block no matter what plug you use. It's like throwing a monster fuel pump on a car, if the fuel lines aren't any bigger, you simply won't have the flow. If you can cycle birdshot just fine then you'll love the auto plug. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 works as advertised don't use 3" shells won't "fix" under gassed guns use search function, lot's of threads 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 +1 to all comments. Mine has held up through 1500 rounds of low and high brass, no problems a year and half later Z Quote Link to post Share on other sites
monkeybones 8 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Great addition to a properly gassed gun, mine didn't work right until i ported my 3 port to 3/32nds then worked like a charm, mix of 00buck slugs and Bird Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crankywanker 7 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Why no 3"? And has anyone used 3"? I use 3" for hunting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 I've shot a couple of 3" with it. They just say that because every gun is different and if yours is slightly overgassed, use of the autoplug with 3" rounds could cause undo wear and tear to your weapon and they don't want to be held liable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I run four of them and couldn't be happier. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 3 ports @ 3/32 and my auto plug works great. I think it's well worth the $$. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I run four of them and couldn't be happier. Yeah, on ONE gun, he's the Chuck Norris of Saigas... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I run four of them and couldn't be happier. Yeah, on ONE gun, he's the Chuck Norris of Saigas... I almost drowned in my coffe, lol. Thgis gives me an idea.... Someone should build a quad quad rail, quad folding stock (up down and all around!), quad bipod, quad in-line brake, quad charging handle, quad vert grip, quad optic Saiga 12 with a 1 to 4 manifold that has an Autoplug in each branch. We don't need no stinking "Ninja AK". 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Funny guys! Damn, I love the entertainment here. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MaloDave 19 Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 I opened 3 of my 4 ports from 0.067" to 0.078" I still have the auto plug screwed almost all the way in with a booster puck to boot. I think I am still somewhat undergassed but it will shoot anything I throw into it. I may pull the gas block again this weekend and open them up to 0.093" That should make it perfect. Malodave 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Its an auto gss regulator. The screw increases resitance against the spring so that the correct amount of gas can be vented. In the case of 3" shells the gas produced is greater than the range of the springs adjustability. You have to run it as wide open as possible so much that other loads that might cycle correctly begin to fail. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 (edited) Its an auto gss regulator. The screw increases resitance against the spring so that the correct amount of gas can be vented. In the case of 3" shells the gas produced is greater than the range of the springs adjustability. You have to run it as wide open as possible so much that other loads that might cycle correctly begin to fail. Nevermind, I understand what you are saying. Edited April 28, 2012 by Caged Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flyin hawaiian 2 Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 (edited) I love my MD V-plug , but i also have a 2011 legion S12 it cycled low brass from the factory. But the auto-plug is set it and forget it that Just makes it easier. I have mine on order , doesnt hurt to try them all Edited April 28, 2012 by flyin hawaiian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 I opened 3 of my 4 ports from 0.067" to 0.078" I still have the auto plug screwed almost all the way in with a booster puck to boot. I think I am still somewhat undergassed but it will shoot anything I throw into it. I may pull the gas block again this weekend and open them up to 0.093" That should make it perfect. Malodave .093" is the prefect size IMO. I have tried a few different combinations, and 4 @ .093" on an 18-19" S12 works well and the ports don't clog as easily as smaller ones. You are on the right track. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mitch535 29 Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 I opened 3 of my 4 ports from 0.067" to 0.078" I still have the auto plug screwed almost all the way in with a booster puck to boot. I think I am still somewhat undergassed but it will shoot anything I throw into it. I may pull the gas block again this weekend and open them up to 0.093" That should make it perfect. Malodave .093" is the prefect size IMO. I have tried a few different combinations, and 4 @ .093" on an 18-19" S12 works well and the ports don't clog as easily as smaller ones. You are on the right track. I just opened mine up, 4 @ .093". I also did my own version of the "d-mod", and you can easily see all 4 ports in all their gloriously clean awesomeoness. I'll be testing it out later today, and I have an autoplug on-route via fed ex. Can't wait to see how it does. I'd like to be able to hip fire it. Not for any practical reason, I just feel that, in order for a gun to be completely reliable, it should be able to fire from any position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigchris 31 Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 I just did my ports last weekend, only had three so i drilled them out to 3/32 but i wish i wouldve drilled a 4th hole while i had it all torn apart... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 I opened 3 of my 4 ports from 0.067" to 0.078" I still have the auto plug screwed almost all the way in with a booster puck to boot. I think I am still somewhat undergassed but it will shoot anything I throw into it. I may pull the gas block again this weekend and open them up to 0.093" That should make it perfect. Malodave .093" is the prefect size IMO. I have tried a few different combinations, and 4 @ .093" on an 18-19" S12 works well and the ports don't clog as easily as smaller ones. You are on the right track. I just opened mine up, 4 @ .093". I also did my own version of the "d-mod", and you can easily see all 4 ports in all their gloriously clean awesomeoness. I'll be testing it out later today, and I have an autoplug on-route via fed ex. Can't wait to see how it does. I'd like to be able to hip fire it. Not for any practical reason, I just feel that, in order for a gun to be completely reliable, it should be able to fire from any position. I agree, some of the more expensive semi-autos on the market aren't able to function when fired from the hip and I think that's just a recipe for disaster... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KracknCorn 3 Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 I just did my ports last weekend, only had three so i drilled them out to 3/32 but i wish i wouldve drilled a 4th hole while i had it all torn apart... Hahah... I had the same sentiment when I enlarged mine. After a couple of months, I just took it apart yesterday and made a 4th hole =) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guns Are Great 140 Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 As a non-purchaser I would think they are good. Everytime someone says they sux, I try to buy it. I never get an answer so they are obviously a good product and the problem people were having was their setting it up. But for now jut too expensive for me, but maybe later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 I've got one, it works great. Didn't take me long to get it set up from slugs to federal bulk ammo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ARCHANGEL 104 Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 I bought one of the first 50 produced. Works the way described. With the Auto Plug my S12 can shoot high and low brass in the same mag with no problems. After a year plus, it still works . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltham_41 52 Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 IT works as advertised, and is a valuable addition to the platform. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 I just did my ports last weekend, only had three so i drilled them out to 3/32 but i wish i wouldve drilled a 4th hole while i had it all torn apart... It makes good sense to do things in stages. Try adding a fourth small port if needed. It only takes a few minutes to knock it back apart and bump up a size if you need to. Smaller holes let in less crud. No sense making them bigger than your gun really needs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigchris 31 Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 I need to do some more shooting but i might try a performance puck before i tear it apart and add a 4th hole. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Your gun, but I would reverse your last statement. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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