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#31 dogman33836

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 05:59 PM

He says he is shipping hundreds a day 6 days a week. But not 1 person has posted that they have received one!

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 06:12 PM

not to be fussy but all i see is a bunch of boxes that say Kushnapup on them. is their anything in them? How about a pic of the first level of boxes on the palets all opened with kushnapups inside?

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 09:05 PM

He says he is shipping hundreds a day 6 days a week. But not 1 person has posted that they have received one!

not to be fussy but all i see is a bunch of boxes that say Kushnapup on them. is their anything in them? How about a pic of the first level of boxes on the palets all opened with kushnapups inside?

Reminds me a moving company commercial shoot where the owner was moving empty boxes. I wouldn't put it past Kushnapup at this point.
I wonder what it feels like to be a turd? Maybe someone from Kushnapup can chime in....

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 09:06 PM

not to be fussy but all i see is a bunch of boxes that say Kushnapup on them. is their anything in them? How about a pic of the first level of boxes on the palets all opened with kushnapups inside?


Hahaha exactly what I was thinking when I got the update/photos. Its like this guy has all the oppurtunity in the world to set peoples minds at ease, just comes up with BS on why he doesnt act on it.

Ive been wrong before, but its seems like more of the same... I'd expect an update on how the building caught fire and all the polymer melted and they have to start from scratch with a new vendor because they want to make it better than the previous make believe designs.
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 09:26 PM

Hi all, I'm new to the forum, and really don't read forums, but I felt the need to share this info with the Saiga community.
In short, I asked if they would be shipping soon, and here is the reply:

"There are 10 of these.. I am processing out orders for shipment today,
tomorrow, the next day, Saturday, Monday and shipping will continue
throughout the week and everyday there after."

he also included a picture of what was shipping that day.

So for those of us that placed an order, we should be seeing these very shortly. When I receive mine, i'll post pics of the conversion. I've shot other bullpup conversions and wasn't impressed with the bulk and feel of it, so we'll see about this one. I've read that many have had issues with Bjorn, but I have nothing bad to say at all, actually the transaction and communication has been quick and pleasant.

-Greg


"Hi, I'm a shill for kushnapup running an astroturfing campaign."

Fixed that for you.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:37 AM

Anybody that would order one now without getting an actual review is an idiot.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 03:02 PM

found this new video on youtube posted yesterday. I dont believe it is a actual review on the current products supposably being shipped..in the video he states his is a proto type made of cheap plastic. Therefore why would you post this video yesterday if it was a prototype i assume being a prototype he had for a while...here is the vid..and the only vid by anyone other then Bjorn



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Posted 09 May 2012 - 08:01 PM

On the websight --Under Shipping Info
Pre Orders ETA

All orders as of 4:40 pm May 9th have been shipped. Tracking numbers will go out today and tomorrow for all pre orders. New orders placed will be receiving tracking numbers tomorrow.

Waiting on my tracking number.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:14 PM

Got my tracking number today. Supposed to be here Saturday.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:31 PM

Got my tracking number today. Supposed to be here Saturday.

Hmm... Newer account... 5 posts.... And a kushnacustomer to boot. If you get yours, definitely post a video/pics.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:14 PM

ditto on the tracking number...got mine late in the afternoon....here are some details....it looks like it's in process at USPS:
Your item has been processed at our origin sort facility at 8:39 pm on May 09, 2012 in SALT LAKE CITY, UT 84199. Accepted at USPS Origin Sort Facility, May 09, 2012, 7:24 pm, HEBER CITY, UT 84032 Shipment Accepted, May 09, 2012, 2:51 pm, HEBER CITY, UT 84032 Electronic Shipping Info Received, May 08, 2012

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:41 PM

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:27 PM

and hello sore looser back :-p amazing how much hate there is out there....

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:31 PM

IP address trace, anyone?

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:46 PM

dont know why he just doesnt post a pic on the kushnapup site of those jumbo palets of kushnapup boxes with the top layers all opened up showing the stocks inside..not hard..not a big deal...that would pretty much seal the deal for me.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:48 PM

go ahead...anyways, if the box comes in empty, i'll let ya know..the good news is that there is actually tracking info from the number itself, so something is shipping :-)
theoretically it shoudl arrive on saturday...

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:58 PM

So let me get this straight, the only folks with tracking numbers are those with extremely new accounts?

Nope, not suspicious at all.

Still and all, I want a kushnapup so damned bad!

It's so much more compact and sleek than the CBRPS bullpup kit.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:11 AM

...take a look when i registered this account...just because I don't post much doesn't mean it's just created...and then compare to when your acct was created... :-)

anyways, just posted the info as maybe some folks would care...I am aware there is a lot of doubt out there considreding all the delays and drama... and I have seen it before that other companies have given out tracking numbers without actually placing the order with USPS...but based on the tracking number i got the thing is being processed, so something is shipping...
I just hope I catch the mailman on saturday, otherwise I'll have to run by the post office on Monday to pick it up..they don't often leave packages around here, just the little slip to pick it up...
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 01:44 AM

...take a look when i registered this account...just because I don't post much doesn't mean it's just created...and then compare to when your acct was created... :-)

anyways, just posted the info as maybe some folks would care...I am aware there is a lot of doubt out there considreding all the delays and drama... and I have seen it before that other companies have given out tracking numbers without actually placing the order with USPS...but based on the tracking number i got the thing is being processed, so something is shipping...
I just hope I catch the mailman on saturday, otherwise I'll have to run by the post office on Monday to pick it up..they don't often leave packages around here, just the little slip to pick it up...


Honestly, you don't seem like an astroturfer.

I'm seriously hoping the kushnapups arrive and reviews follow.
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#50 AGC

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 02:24 AM

That's my video, I wasn't given a prototype to do a review on it. I did not have permission to release anything until recently. I have not had it very long. I can answer some questions but most will have it soon I suspect. I am not in business with Kushnapup however, so my opinions are my own. Also, I've yet to receive tracking info.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:21 AM

Looks like your a newbie as of today at 2 am. and that you and your club are very much into firearms especially Kalashnikov format..Seems strange you wouldnt have been on here along time ago. and why would you recieve a prototype? to use it or hold you off untill your supposed real kushnapup arrives? I dont get it, Its a prototype for obviously to review.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:51 AM

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:01 AM

in AGCs defense the video was seemed pretty unbiased.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:16 AM

I only registered to post a comment to you linking to the video; prior to that I was content in reading and not commenting. I had the prototype to review the installation in order to provide feedback to the company. I presume I was selected for the task because of the unsolicited feedback I'd given prior.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:31 AM

I only registered to post a comment to you linking to the video; prior to that I was content in reading and not commenting. I had the prototype to review the installation in order to provide feedback to the company. I presume I was selected for the task because of the unsolicited feedback I'd given prior.


You seem like a good guy and I really liked your review, it was comprehensive, honest, and well filmed.

Maybe you could post more stuff, we are a little short of sanity here.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:56 AM

I'm on a much needed vacation right now, I won't be back until Wednesday. I do have some photos on my laptop of the install. I'll get them up.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:04 PM

In favor of trying to share something, this is what I added on the Bullpup Forum:

http://bullpupforum....php?topic=696.0

During my conversations with Kushnapup over the past year and a half (my unsolicited feedback) the panic of the ATF's block of the Saiga-12 with customs became a large issue. I suggested making the stock work with other calibers so the shotgun freeze wouldn't destroy any future plans for the design. He admitted later that he took it to heart and temporarily obtained each caliber to see how it would fit. The final installation manual reflects this. Also in the instruction manual is the concern that if you install the stock on a 16" rifle and then remove the stock tangs to attach the buttpad you will no longer meet the overall length requirement of 26". This is not a concern on the shotgun as they require an 18" barrel by federal law. Below are a few more of humble thoughts. I am quite sure that in a few weeks many of you will have vastly more time with the system than I have had.

Pros:
Reduces overall length
Balances the weight of the weapon closer to the body
Cleaning can still be done with the stock attached, using a pull through system
If you find the Warsaw Pack length AKM stocks too short you may like the LOP
Access to the bolt-lock and gas detent are retained
Trigger is adjustable and I found it to my liking, a case of "good enough"
Aesthetically unique
Installation isn't more complicated than Ikea furniture

Cons:
Installation of front sling swivel was irritating the first time, don't like the design
In a potential catastrophe the danger area is closer to the eye
The stock needs to be removed in order to do a thorough cleaning
LOP (close to the FN FS2000) is longer than I prefer
Magazine feeding is made more awkward, a general bullpup problem compounded by the paddle-release of an AK
Requires an aftermarket rail installation to have sights
Initial shock of so many small parts to the kit
Stock tangs need to be removed in order to install the buttpad
Rifles with 16" barrels do not meet the minimum length requirement of 26"
Saiga-12 models without the sight rib will require drilling and tapping to mount a sight rail
Use of drums gets in the way of what I feel is a secure and proper hold of the firearm, I do not hip-shoot
The installation manual reads like a forum post

Suggestions:
I believe a left-hand hand-stop is necessary
Optional rail for optic instead of something aftermarket, possibly floating over gas-tube
Optional rail under the forearm for personal selection of vertical grips
Optional buttpad that extends to no longer require removing the stock tangs, possibly of hard rubber, will increase LOP
Optional single-point sling attachments
Extended paddle-mag release lever

I suggest adding a small washer behind the trigger return spring, I found it just made it keep the spring lined up the way I wanted it to while I put the two halves together.

The question of durability is up in the air for me. I hope the final product is tough, but the general design seems like the gun will give the stock's internal ribs a beating.
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#58 Terry Ruin

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 01:30 PM

The only people getting stocks seem to have either new accounts or... Just now posting after having an account for several months..

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 01:58 PM

I haven't received a tracking number like many.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 02:11 PM

Hey guys, in case you haven't seen it yet, there is another posting on this forum that has some pics from someone who received theirs today - "Kushnapup LLC" - http://forum.saiga-1..._763715__st__30



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