sly762 4 Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 I will be using us fcg = 3 parts us handguard = 1 parts us muzzle break= 1 part is that enough or do I also need a puck? Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) ETA: Is it converted? Pay close attention to the boxes that are already unchecked. The calculator automatically unchecks items that do not count on a sporterized Saiga shotgun. http://www.gunwiki.net/Gunwiki/BuildSaigaShotgunVerifyCompliance Edited May 8, 2012 by evlblkwpnz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Did not the friendly, professional HONEST, knowledgable, kind and gentle BATFE recently change the rules on 9.22® parts count for the Saiga 12 sporting shotgun? My "Betty Bucker" (Saiga 12) has an American made puck, piston, hammer, trigger, disconnector, pistol grip, buttstock, forarm, hammer pin, trigger pin, gas regulator, scope mount and scope. I hope that is enough. HB of CJ (old coot) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Five parts that count, yeah, you made it, barely... I'd use American mags or Russian mags with home made floor plates just to play it safe though... Did not the friendly, professional HONEST, knowledgable, kind and gentle BATFE recently change the rules on 9.22® parts count for the Saiga 12 sporting shotgun? My "Betty Bucker" (Saiga 12) has an American made puck, piston, hammer, trigger, disconnector, pistol grip, buttstock, forarm, hammer pin, trigger pin, gas regulator, scope mount and scope. I hope that is enough. HB of CJ (old coot) Pistol grip doesn't count towards you, trigger pin doesn't matter, neither does gas regulator, scope mount, or scope... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nephilim7 107 Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Five parts that count, yeah, you made it, barely... I'd use American mags or Russian mags with home made floor plates just to play it safe though... It is my understanding that a USA-made puck, piston, hammer, trigger, disconnector, buttstock, and forearm are all applicable parts to the 922r compliance count. If that is all true, HB has SEVEN parts that count. Please let me know if I am mistaken. I plan on doing exactly the same thing soon on my first Saiga. Thanks, Caged! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sly762 4 Posted May 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 I didnt convert it yet. I am thinking about ordering parts for it but wanted to see how much it will cost and exactly what I need. Thanks everyone. If I do it I will play it safe and use the puck as well as the other parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Five parts that count, yeah, you made it, barely... I'd use American mags or Russian mags with home made floor plates just to play it safe though... It is my understanding that a USA-made puck, piston, hammer, trigger, disconnector, buttstock, and forearm are all applicable parts to the 922r compliance count. If that is all true, HB has SEVEN parts that count. Please let me know if I am mistaken. I plan on doing exactly the same thing soon on my first Saiga. Thanks, Caged! If i understand correctly, the "puck/piston" and op rod (threaded piece into BC) are considered one part now and you must have both for it to be a compliance part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) That's not my understanding of the present interpretation, MM. The "bolt carrier extention" (AK piston) = 1 "operating rod" The puck/ tappet = 1 "piston" 2 parts. Therefore each is an independently counted part, not a combined piston. Edited May 9, 2012 by GunFun 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Interesting. I'd have to look at it again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sly762 4 Posted May 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 On carolinashooterssupply.com it say's that it count's as 1 compliant part. They could be wrong but I hope not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nephilim7 107 Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 I agree with GunFun. I beleive they are two separate parts on the worksheet (although the worksheet is not authoritative). What does my interpretation matter anyway??? I guess you have to do the best you can, keep your nose clean, and pray your interpretation and the ATF's interpretation-of-the-week matches yours. This whole 922r thing is so frivolous and poorly done. Is there a stated purpose to this making even the spirit of the law clear? Speak plainly, ATF, so we upstanding citizens that are trying to get this done right can follow the law. I am afraid each inquiry about these issues will only bring tighter constrictions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Thank you Caged. It is remarkable is it not that we go to such silly extremes to remain law abiding citizens, including this outragious requirement to meet some dumb scheme dreamed up by a non elected federal beaurucrat dealing with Saiga 12s. Second Admendment? Oh...I forgot to add on the American (I think) (probably chinese) nuts, bolts and lock washers holding on my realigned receiver side mount opic mount base which was way way off and required shimming both up and down and side to side. HB of CJ (old coot) :) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) Nope, two different posters, OP said nothing about butt-stock and forearm... The most recent ruling stated that the puck and op rod are seperate pieces and both count... Edited May 8, 2012 by Caged Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sly762 4 Posted May 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) What I meant in my previous post is that carolina say's the puck bye itself counts as 1 part. I am not using a pd or stock. I plan to use us mags but want the ability to still use the oem 5 rd. I will be getting the puck also just to play it safe. so my total parts will be (once I get around to ordering) us fcg - 3 handguard -1 muzzle break -1 us puck-1 Thanks everyone for the help! Edited May 10, 2012 by SLY762 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crankywanker 7 Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 the fact that we are cow towing to their bullshit is ridiculous. one day theyll go too far. who will bow down to that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.