joshman 4 Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Hey guys, I officially finished my saiga and I want to paint parts of it as some of it is scratched and my muzzle brake and FSB are both used and have scratches and are a slightly different color. I want to keep it black like it is from factory, what type of paint should I buy? Will normal spray paint work? I know barrels get freaking hot and figured that would affect the type of paint I apply. Thanks in advance!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Duplicolor engine paint # DE 1634 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IPSC45 8 Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) Look what I say in post #32 within this thread----> VHT paint ( brand name " Very High Temperature ") , GM satin black,code SP-139,has CERAMIC...about $8 a can. See also embedded pics of my Beretta pistol done this way...and the other embedded links to AK style guns in post #34. http://www.akfiles.c...ad.php?t=108897 Edited May 12, 2012 by IPSC45 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
S5snake 41 Posted May 12, 2012 Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 After finishing my 5.45 build I also used the same Dupicolor as mentioned above and it looked awesome. The problem I ran into was using some gun scrubber after a day at the range and some of it got on the receiver. The gun scrubber took some of the finish off so I ended up painting it again using Duracoat. So far nothing I've cleaned it with has affected the finish. Good luck and enjoy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IPSC45 8 Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 (edited) Good report on the Duracoat. As I mention in the other thread...I found this quote on the internet when doing a search for firearms finishes. ---> =================== " If you are looking at a very durable bake on finish, you could try some of the Hi-temp auto paint. A buddy of mine told me about this paint; he said after it is cured (baked) it is indestructible. So I bought a can and did a test, I found a scrap piece of steel under my workbench, sandblasted it, cleaned it, then sprayed it with paint. I read the instructions on the can & it said to let the paint dry for overnight. So the next day I got out my gas smoker fired it up to 200 degrees, I hung the painted steel in the smoker and set the timer for 30 min. After that 30 min. past I took the steel out and hung it to cool. After it was cool I put it to the test, I sprayed it with gun scrubber let sit for a few min. then wiped off---finish was still there. Then I used acetone on it, still there, then I poured some acetone in a pan & let to soak for an hour, picked from its bath and wiped real hard with a rag, the paint remained as if I had never touched it. So I figured if it could hold up to that, it would hold up to anything I could do to it on a gun. It also can take up to 550 degrees of heat and come out shining. It is the new finish on my Polish Tantal with fix stock; I used the SP139 GM Satin Black. It comes in many colors, & Flat, Satin, Gloss and Metallic. http://www.vhtpaint.com/engineenamel.html http://i33.tinypic.com/2dmgie.jpg It looks good for being a home finish job...... " Edited May 15, 2012 by IPSC45 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IPSC45 8 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Update.... I've now tried both the Duplicolor and VHT products . The VHT "satin" is still a bit too shiny for my taste for a "military" looking finish. The Duplicolor was more matte, and seemed more suitable for a milspec type rifle. Haven't tested durability side-by-side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brownwood 11 Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Engine enamel has been one of mys secrets for cheap gun finishing for years. Ive actually done some very cool looking 1911s with it using standard auto polishing compounds to produce a very slick glossy finish on slides and frames. Also did several CZ82s this way. BBQ black isn't to bad for a durable flat black finish. Lately I have been doing a lot of sponge camo jobs on my Saigas and ARs using Duplicolor camo paimt for woodland an desert schemes and 3 colors of auto primer for urban camo. Not quite as durable but touches up easily. Durability is enhanced with a couple of coats of matte clear coat but it isn't completely flat when finished. Fun stuff! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) After finishing my 5.45 build I also used the same Dupicolor as mentioned above and it looked awesome. The problem I ran into was using some gun scrubber after a day at the range and some of it got on the receiver. The gun scrubber took some of the finish off so I ended up painting it again using Duracoat. So far nothing I've cleaned it with has affected the finish. Good luck and enjoy. Gunscrubber is literally automotive brake cleaner, and can take off just about any finish out there. Be careful because it can eventually damage Duracoat as well. I have used both Duplicolor DE1634 and DE1635. Both are very tough gun finishes for the price you pay, and stand up to most firearm solvents/cleaners - would never spray Gunscrubber at them though. Edited July 19, 2012 by mancat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MyGrassIsBlue05 14 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Duplicolor engine paint # DE 1634 This. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IPSC45 8 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 I've found that the post-heating process is very important if you want a lasting finish. Most of the Duplicolor style enamels suggest at least 1/2 hour...maybe 1 hour...at 200 degF bake. For some parts..I've baked them 2 or 3 times at this temp...and then a final 2 hour bake at 250 degF. The result was a super-hard finish and the surface ( Duplicolor DE 1634) now feels like velvet instead of a very mild sandpaper. Haven't *purposely* tried to use a very aggressive cleaner....but seems to hold up real nice, up to now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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