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#1 Vintovka Dragunova

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:02 PM

so i received a package today. inside where 60 rnds of 1992 production steel cased copper washed ammo.


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does any one have any info on them? also what would you do? hold onto them, or shoot them?

the packs are marked 2 3/4 " but they are actually longer than 3" mags (see pic)
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they would require a little trimming to fit in a saiga mag. which wouldnt be a big deal as the plug sits low in the case. the extra length is just empty case.
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:16 PM

Well aint that cool, I would hold on to them.
Where did you get them,How much, any more?
Or non of my beezwax.LOL

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:22 PM

OOOOOOUHH- pretty!

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:29 PM

second that... hang onto it, just cause you will NEVER see anymore again, I am willing to bet... :up:


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Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:37 PM

they actually are 2 3/4" or close to it, because the length is measured with the crimp open, and since those don't have a crimp they are measured by the oal
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:43 PM

Well aint that cool, I would hold on to them.
Where did you get them,How much, any more?
Or non of my beezwax.LOL

old stock from jg sales .11.00 for all 60 rnds.(2 30 rnd packs) sadly no more. they are cool looking. and its T shot of all things.

they actually are 2 3/4" or close to it, because the length is measured with the crimp open, and since those don't have a crimp they are measured by the oal


so does that mean the silver bear steel hulls would cause the same issue?

Edited by Pusca Semiautomata Luneta, 23 May 2012 - 07:45 PM.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:48 PM


they actually are 2 3/4" or close to it, because the length is measured with the crimp open, and since those don't have a crimp they are measured by the oal


so does that mean the silver bear steel hulls would cause the same issue?


maybe, you would just have to get a box and try them, they might work in stick mags but most likely will not work in drums, measurement for shotgun shells is never really exact

Edited by Russian Hammer, 23 May 2012 - 07:49 PM.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 10:01 PM

I would offer them for sale, some collectors out there, and use the money for ammo that I can use.
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 11:21 PM

Sell them for five bucks a pop to folks who worry about the top round deforming when left loaded on a full magazine. Great find!

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 11:47 PM

Sell them for five bucks a pop to folks who worry about the top round deforming when left loaded on a full magazine.



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Posted 24 May 2012 - 04:06 AM

...Nostalgia deluxe edition x50.

I wish I had some of those :(

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 11:52 PM

ill buy one for 5 bucks lol
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 03:42 PM

those are sweet. id keep 'em. or you could try to feed them through a pump action and see how they run. but hell. sell half of them, make your money back x5 and call it a day. then you can sit on the other half for later down the road.
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 05:34 PM

What's the diffference between this and the new steel cased Silver Bear 12g (and .410 ammo) that ammunition to go is selling for $0.47 per? The copper wash?

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 05:46 PM

These are 12 gauge. LOL
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 08:34 PM

What's the diffference between this and the new steel cased Silver Bear 12g (and .410 ammo) that ammunition to go is selling for $0.47 per? The copper wash?


the age, the manufacturer, the length, the shot size............................. silver bear is modern sporting ammo, these look more like milsurp. (but probably arent)
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Posted 27 May 2012 - 08:45 PM

get a double 12ga and use those to hunt, tell people it's a holland and holland 12 bore paradox rifle
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 07:38 AM

Silver bear are too long for drums.

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 12:41 PM

Silver bear are too long for drums.

That's true, but so were the ones noted by OP. And the silver brear will load in a factory mag, unlike the OPs ammo. Though they are only #8 shot, they don't seem to sell buck.

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 08:29 PM

I got me a couple boxes of these coming, myself... :up:


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Posted 03 June 2012 - 12:35 AM

I got me a couple boxes of these coming, myself... Posted Image


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sweet what was the final price?
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Posted 03 June 2012 - 01:54 PM

like 16 bucks.

Oh well... what can ya do. LOL
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Posted 04 June 2012 - 12:07 AM

Are "T shot" nails with tails style flechetes? Or is it some European measurement for conventional shot?

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 02:19 AM

Are "T shot" nails with tails style flechetes? Or is it some European measurement for conventional shot?

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T = .20" (5.08 mm)

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 02:55 AM

Thanks. For what it is worth, I liked it better when your post still had the table from wikipedia. People are afraid to admit it when they get good information from one of the best sources.

Wikipedia is great if people have sense enough to verify the information. A table of shot sizes is hardly the place you are going to find spurious claims. Peer review from fanatical enthusiasts is a pretty good means of assaying reliability, though not infallible. Peer review by professors and scientists whose funding is linked to people agreeing with them is at least as suspect in my book.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 02:19 PM

Thanks. For what it is worth, I liked it better when your post still had the table from wikipedia. People are afraid to admit it when they get good information from one of the best sources.

Wikipedia is great if people have sense enough to verify the information. A table of shot sizes is hardly the place you are going to find spurious claims. Peer review from fanatical enthusiasts is a pretty good means of assaying reliability, though not infallible. Peer review by professors and scientists whose funding is linked to people agreeing with them is at least as suspect in my book.


yeah but it didnt paste over right. came out all squished together so.................just copied the one i wanted.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 04:27 PM

wow, I would like to have a couple boxes of those !
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Posted 11 April 2015 - 03:06 PM

Found some at the gun show today:)

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Posted 13 April 2015 - 08:10 PM

Those are so cool, I remember wondering what shotgun shells looked like before plastic and then saw anthropologists dig up brass shells in a cave.

 

I'd keep some just for the coolness factor.


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Posted 10 June 2015 - 06:23 AM

You can still get these...no as cool but different.

 

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