psl sniper 963 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 so i received a package today. inside where 60 rnds of 1992 production steel cased copper washed ammo. does any one have any info on them? also what would you do? hold onto them, or shoot them? the packs are marked 2 3/4 " but they are actually longer than 3" mags (see pic) they would require a little trimming to fit in a saiga mag. which wouldnt be a big deal as the plug sits low in the case. the extra length is just empty case. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Well aint that cool, I would hold on to them. Where did you get them,How much, any more? Or non of my beezwax.LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 OOOOOOUHH- pretty! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 second that... hang onto it, just cause you will NEVER see anymore again, I am willing to bet... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fallschirmjager667 729 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 they actually are 2 3/4" or close to it, because the length is measured with the crimp open, and since those don't have a crimp they are measured by the oal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted May 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 (edited) Well aint that cool, I would hold on to them. Where did you get them,How much, any more? Or non of my beezwax.LOL old stock from jg sales .11.00 for all 60 rnds.(2 30 rnd packs) sadly no more. they are cool looking. and its T shot of all things. they actually are 2 3/4" or close to it, because the length is measured with the crimp open, and since those don't have a crimp they are measured by the oal so does that mean the silver bear steel hulls would cause the same issue? Edited May 24, 2012 by Pusca Semiautomata Luneta 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fallschirmjager667 729 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 (edited) they actually are 2 3/4" or close to it, because the length is measured with the crimp open, and since those don't have a crimp they are measured by the oal so does that mean the silver bear steel hulls would cause the same issue? maybe, you would just have to get a box and try them, they might work in stick mags but most likely will not work in drums, measurement for shotgun shells is never really exact Edited May 24, 2012 by Russian Hammer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 I would offer them for sale, some collectors out there, and use the money for ammo that I can use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Sell them for five bucks a pop to folks who worry about the top round deforming when left loaded on a full magazine. Great find! 1911 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Sell them for five bucks a pop to folks who worry about the top round deforming when left loaded on a full magazine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Agent Lemon 157 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 ...Nostalgia deluxe edition x50. I wish I had some of those Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dieb4iwake 60 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 ill buy one for 5 bucks lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 those are sweet. id keep 'em. or you could try to feed them through a pump action and see how they run. but hell. sell half of them, make your money back x5 and call it a day. then you can sit on the other half for later down the road. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevin.rose0@gmail.com 62 Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 What's the diffference between this and the new steel cased Silver Bear 12g (and .410 ammo) that ammunition to go is selling for $0.47 per? The copper wash? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 These are 12 gauge. LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted May 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 What's the diffference between this and the new steel cased Silver Bear 12g (and .410 ammo) that ammunition to go is selling for $0.47 per? The copper wash? the age, the manufacturer, the length, the shot size............................. silver bear is modern sporting ammo, these look more like milsurp. (but probably arent) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fallschirmjager667 729 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 get a double 12ga and use those to hunt, tell people it's a holland and holland 12 bore paradox rifle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Silver bear are too long for drums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevin.rose0@gmail.com 62 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Silver bear are too long for drums. That's true, but so were the ones noted by OP. And the silver brear will load in a factory mag, unlike the OPs ammo. Though they are only #8 shot, they don't seem to sell buck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 I got me a couple boxes of these coming, myself... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted June 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 I got me a couple boxes of these coming, myself... sweet what was the final price? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 like 16 bucks. Oh well... what can ya do. LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Are "T shot" nails with tails style flechetes? Or is it some European measurement for conventional shot? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted June 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) Are "T shot" nails with tails style flechetes? Or is it some European measurement for conventional shot? l T = .20" (5.08 mm) Edited June 4, 2012 by Pusca Semiautomata Luneta 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Thanks. For what it is worth, I liked it better when your post still had the table from wikipedia. People are afraid to admit it when they get good information from one of the best sources. Wikipedia is great if people have sense enough to verify the information. A table of shot sizes is hardly the place you are going to find spurious claims. Peer review from fanatical enthusiasts is a pretty good means of assaying reliability, though not infallible. Peer review by professors and scientists whose funding is linked to people agreeing with them is at least as suspect in my book. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted June 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Thanks. For what it is worth, I liked it better when your post still had the table from wikipedia. People are afraid to admit it when they get good information from one of the best sources. Wikipedia is great if people have sense enough to verify the information. A table of shot sizes is hardly the place you are going to find spurious claims. Peer review from fanatical enthusiasts is a pretty good means of assaying reliability, though not infallible. Peer review by professors and scientists whose funding is linked to people agreeing with them is at least as suspect in my book. yeah but it didnt paste over right. came out all squished together so.................just copied the one i wanted. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chris2000ss 2 Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 wow, I would like to have a couple boxes of those ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
metalgodlb 30 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Found some at the gun show today:) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Those are so cool, I remember wondering what shotgun shells looked like before plastic and then saw anthropologists dig up brass shells in a cave. I'd keep some just for the coolness factor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
compshootfl 40 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 You can still get these...no as cool but different. LINK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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