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#1 KennyFSU

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:42 AM

I'd like one that reduces recoil the best as well, any recommendations? I prefer side-folding but if there are others out there that I'm not aware of please provide some input, thanks all.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 07:24 AM

Depends on how much you're willing to spend and how long you're willing to look for it and the associated parts that may be necessary to complete the install. The Best is going to be difficult to find as it can be very different from person to person. I prefer the SVDS/AK100 folding stock, but this setup is very costly. Are you looking for a stock that is russian or russian design or are you wanting an AR15 type stock?

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 08:05 AM

Thanks Scorch, I knew I should have included a budget since I'm not a millionaire. I'd like to spend around $1-150 on one.

I don't particularly care for the M4 style collapsible stocks so any one other than that is worth looking into, thanks for the suggestion.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 08:47 AM

Is your saiga already convertered or is it going to converted? If so do you already have those associated parts?

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 09:37 AM

Not yet converted but that will be done in the near future.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 09:58 AM

I'm going through this process right now. What complicates things in my case is the fact I'm left handed but I think I'm going to end up getting something that folds to the left as I don't want to cover up anything on the right side of the receiver. But, I'll have to find a style of stock that doesn't cover the trigger. All this is doable but there are many choices. You can spend a considerable sum on a solution but as you've said you're on a budget you'll probably want to get an all-in-one setup meaning all the parts are in one package.

I'm looking at setups where the receiver block, folding mechanism and stock are all separate. One problem with getting out cheap is the fact that less expensive setups are often not as substantial as more expensive, well built options.

I've found many ideas in the "Show Your Saiga" gallery, you might want to spend some time browsing there to see what others have done.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 11:32 AM

Thanks Squishy, I'll do that.

Lucky for me I'm a righty so I have more available options.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 02:04 PM

I'd like to suggest you check these out.
http://bonesteelarms.com/Saiga_c7.htm
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Posted 30 May 2012 - 02:51 PM

I would go with a the saiga folding stock on russia military......

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 03:38 PM

I've mainly used a Tromix with Limbsaver pad and a shorty ACE with the thicker 1" pad. Both are great, though with the folding mechanism, the Tromix is a bit too long for my taste. Basically, it's NATO length whereas the ACE is a tad longer than Warsaw length.
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Posted 30 May 2012 - 04:01 PM

I just googled what that looks like and snarf I think we have a winner, thanks.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 07:25 PM

I'd like to suggest you check these out.
http://bonesteelarms.com/Saiga_c7.htm

Agreed. Awesome folding stock. Have it with MOE stock w/cheek riser. Last weekend we (including my sister) put 150 rounds down range with this stock and everyone loved it. Highly recommended.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 08:20 PM

Does the bonesteel require the tang to be removed?

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 08:57 PM

Does the bonesteel require the tang to be removed?

No it doesn't. It's a great design that requires no modifications to your receiver. The tube Is mil spec so any mil spec AR stock will fit.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 08:58 PM

Does the bonesteel require the tang to be removed?



Nope. The tang stays on.


*Edit...... he beat me to the answer. LOL

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 09:15 PM

Here is my sis enjoying the Saiga 12 w/Bonesteel folding stock (Memorial Day weekend fun).Posted Image

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:21 AM

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:28 AM

Thanks for the suggestions so far guys, I think I like the Ace side-folding stocks so far. I'm right-handed but have only seen right-side folding ones so I assume I won't be able to shoot it while folded?

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 11:51 AM

Thanks for the suggestions so far guys, I think I like the Ace side-folding stocks so far. I'm right-handed but have only seen right-side folding ones so I assume I won't be able to shoot it while folded?


You can reverse the folder mechanism to make it fold to either side. I know everybody loves the left-folder, but I really prefer a right-folder. IMHO, right folding is easier to open & close and easier to carry slung, but left folding is better for shooting with the stock closed. (If you're into that.)

That being said depending on what kind of stock you're using, it can be possible to shoot while folded to the right. I used to be able to do it with my Ace stock mounted in the lowest possible position. Couldn't do it once I added a paracord wrap and thats barely an extra 1/4", so I'm sure it was very close to FTE'ing.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 12:15 PM

Awesome, thanks for the info DR.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 05:09 PM

You might regret going with the ace, Our stocks are stronger, lock up tighter, fold and unfold easier, and do not require permanently modding rifle. We offer one that accepts ace stocks if that is what you are looking for.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 05:29 PM

You might regret going with the ace, Our stocks are stronger, lock up tighter, fold and unfold easier, and do not require permanently modding rifle. We offer one that accepts ace stocks if that is what you are looking for.

My thoughts also. And you have the choice of left or right folding.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:28 PM

Obi, can you provide me with more details on the stocks you offer? Thanks.

Edit: I just saw the link in your sig, thanks.

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 05:31 PM

You can reverse the folder mechanism to make it fold to either side.


Which set-up are you speaking about here? I know Ace has a way to do this with a combination of receiver block and folding mechanism.

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 08:04 PM

If you don't care about the stock locking in the folded position, the Polish Beryl sidefolder is a good one. I have them on both my Saigas (S12 and 7.62x39). With the grenade launcher recoil pad strapped on, I can barely feel much recoil at all. I only keep them folded for storage room in my safe. Lock up in the unfolded position is nice and solid. I got mine for about $100 each from RTG.

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 08:37 PM

I like that one and the price is right, too bad they're out of stock though.

Thanks for the suggestion pimp.

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 10:50 PM

I have no problem with my ace folder... if you don't wish to cut the tang and want to go Ace, CSS sells an internal receiver block that you can install with your tang intact. I realize that Mr. Bonesteel makes a great product but then again, so does Ace. No reason to bad-mouth any other vendors here...

With that being said, I'd choose a metal stock my Tromix poly stock broke when my weapon fell four feet into mud...
I am now pulling back the thing that you pull back before you fire the gun...

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 11:13 PM

If I'm not mistaken Ace makes a receiver block that doesn't require tang removal the ARBU.

Our right to keep and bear arms - personally - is the essential element of political liberty, without which we would stand as mere slaves of any current administration, as do most of the people in the world today. We treasure our right to be armed, not only as defense against tyrants, but also as defense against evil men acting alone. Our right to defend ourselves against felons by force of arms protects not only our liberty but also - and this is often overlooked - our dignity. Dignity is a word not often used in the Age  of the Wimp, for by definition a wimp has no dignity.  But dignity remains not only desirable but essential to persons of consequence.  This concept is rejected by the socialist, who feels that dignity resides solely in the state. But we Americans are not socialists (at least most of us are not) and we prize our unique status in world society.

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 11:35 PM

ACE! Just cut the tang already...

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 05:33 AM

Yeah from what I've research the Ace folder seems to suit my needs, thanks for the suggestion fellas.

One more thing, would you guys consider Ace to be the thinnest (width-wise) stock when folded?




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