rentprop1 0 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 . has anyone ever tried to install one of these and just fill in on each side of the holes with MIG weld, to make it more solid ?? just wondering if it would make it any beefier ?? I was thinking you could fill it in and then grind it smoothe and refinish ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 That looks interesting. I would surely prefer welded, but like many I do not own a welder. I wonder if that would work loose or not. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socom688 217 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Pour JB weld into the holes I would be down to try this, because I don't mind the look of that, however, I already JB welded my Tromix charging handle on. It has taken more than enough rounds to prove its not going anywhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PITBULL1967 2 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I just bought one of these and installed it, looks great and easier and not as permanent as having one welded on. I like how it feels charging it with the vertical handle over the tromix too. Its also a lot lighter than the tromix handle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) That looks interesting. I would surely prefer welded, but like many I do not own a welder. I wonder if that would work loose or not. Well, the charging handle could be slightly dimpled and red Loctite could be applied. Probably wouldn't go anywhere then. Does look interesting. Edited June 28, 2012 by evlblkwpnz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asmodeus 13 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I'm guessing you just pull flat over the top with your left hand using the dust cover as a guide? Not super optic friendly option then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TORKIT 20 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 not optic friendly at all, my buddy said here my eotech has a quick release try it, and without thinking I pulled with my right hand and knukle was bloody. and it keeps coming loose, think I'll chop it down and weld it on at a 45. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 (edited) excuse me for saying this, but that is one of the useless things I have seen being sold for the S12. what is wrong with the charging handle as is? really, I have no problem with the existing charging handle, am in the minority? or is this more of "bling thing" Edited June 29, 2012 by Matthew Hopkins 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDarkHorse 216 Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 No you are not alone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PITBULL1967 2 Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Here's how mine looks with the chaos titan rail and HK sights... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 That does look like the titan rail will saw into your hand. As far as uselessness goes... It is a preference thing. It seems absurd to me when I watch people with mods like this lock the bolt back every time with their right hand to change the mag. However, if you want to do speed runs, or any kind of competition, anything that makes it easier to reach the charging handle with your left hand is a plus. I still think gunfixer's FAL type charging handle is one of the best I have seen, and I think the "Ratchet" system works well. Personaly, I am more likely to drill through and thread the carrier and use a socket head cap screw on each side as a charging handle. (I guess it is a solid concept as R&R just announced that they are making production carriers designed around that idea.) I don't see that it is any more useless than a vertical handle, or a sling... whatever helps you use the gun in your preferred method more effectively. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beerasaurus 9 Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 I vastly prefer beefing up the handle one way or another. I've got big hands, and in any kind of adverse conditions (wet, muddy, gloves, etc) I get shit-for-purchase on the standard hook. Every AK pattern gun I own has a tromix knob on it, and I am much, much happier for it. This design looks interesting, but--to me--not as a left-handed option (because of optics). It would vastly increase your purchase with your right hand, though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Sorry, but the vertical charging handle is a huge improvement IMHO, depending on your sight setup. I would definately go with weld-on over bolt-on though, especially with the increased leverage at the attachment point. Doesn't work great with Krebs rear ghost rings or rear mounted optics. Works great with HK sights/OEM sights and/or forward mounted optics. For me, vertical chargers are NOT bling and are NOT useless. I could see it maybe being a negative if you wanted to keep the manual of arms consistent with the standard AKM, but other than that they are a big plus in my book as they allow a much more positive engagement of the palm of my hand on the bolt handle (compared to the standard handle) while keeping the weapon shouldered. Just my opinion however. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pjd393 18 Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 I might actually buy it and have Pauly cut it down and weld it horizontally because I like the look and shape of it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
45Bretired 19 Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 I was gonna do one but I just decided to move it to the left side so my optics don't get in the way. I agree it has a nice shape though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slostang 80 Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Looks cheap and tacky. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TORKIT 20 Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Looks cheap and tacky. Don't talk about my ex-wife like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PITBULL1967 2 Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Went to the range today and put about 150 low brass, and about 40 or so 3 in mag slugs through my s-12 and this fucking charging handle was giving me all kinds of trouble. I did like how it made charging the weapon a little easier but sure enough even with locktite the handle kept coming loose. I cranked on it over and over again thinking that ok this will be the last time but every 45-50 rounds it would start to come loose... looks like back to the drawing board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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