Doug Hartley 526 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 The first batch of carriers made by R and R Targets has been received from heat treat and they are ready to start testing. These are machined from billet stock and are desiged to be stronger than the orginal part. More details to follow. Doug 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Need any help testing Great to see a product like this coming to market, I hope it is a big success! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) When can I buy one? Aside from having no CH on the right side, are they roughly the same weight as the factory carrier? Can I get one that doesn't have the hole for the piston? Edited June 24, 2012 by evlblkwpnz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Oh man! Oh man! Oh man!!! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Killer! Thread in piston/op rod? Will you guys be making/offering pistons/op rods too? What would be the outcome if the op-rod was integrated into the carrier? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug Hartley 526 Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 When can I buy one? We are going to test the crap out of them before any get sold. Robert is at the High Plains Shotgun Match and then next week we are both going to the Rockcastle Shotgun Match in Kentucky. I hope to have one to test soon. I got about 2000 rounds of AAs that need to get made into hulls! Killer! Thread in piston/op rod? Will you guys be making/offering pistons/op rods too? What would be the outcome if the op-rod was integrated into the carrier? Robert makes both long and short gas systems for his Saigas so he would have had to make 2 different carriers to make both work. This way it can fit all different Saiga variations. The left side bolt handle option is being built into all the bolts as you can see from the picture. Right side bolt handles will also be available. He has bucket loads of original Saiga op rods that can be included in the purchase of a carrier Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redfish28 50 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Finally! I was wondering when someone was going to manufacture these. You will make gobbs of money off these. Congrats! Whats next the bolts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Need any help testing Great to see a product like this coming to market, I hope it is a big success! It will be. People can get one of these to do their left CHs, etc., still leave their factory carrier intact, and use the modded carrier on the next build if they want to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug Hartley 526 Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Finally! I was wondering when someone was going to manufacture these. You will make gobbs of money off these. Congrats! Whats next the bolts? Actually he had the bolts in work before the carrier, but being a one man shop he got sidetracked with other projects. The bolts should be available soon. Doug 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redfish28 50 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I can not find the words to express how happy I am right now! Will the bolts have a different profile? Polished? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Need any help testing Great to see a product like this coming to market, I hope it is a big success! It will be. People can get one of these to do their left CHs, etc., still leave their factory carrier intact, and use the modded carrier on the next build if they want to. I am thinking along those lines as well, i am considering some different charging handle options, and this would be perfect as I could keep my original carrier the way it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Very cool. Be sure to have them tested by someone that's going to put them through the ringer. Over at Cadiz Gun Works, they called me "Charlie Brown", cuz I was able to break welded on trigger guards a couple different times. It's a gift. LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Direct_ecneulfnI 5 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I have a raging semi right now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 We are going to test the crap out of them before any get sold. Sunnybean has a great SBS to test the overall durability of a carrier. Oh man! Oh man! Oh man!!! With them manufacturing them, they can likely make one with a solid end rather than threading it.That'd be bad-ass for your application. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 WELL I WILL BE DAMNED!!! This is just to good a news! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beerasaurus 9 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Damned exciting! Nice work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Good to see! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rentprop1 0 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I'M LOST, are these for left side charging or what ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 We are going to test the crap out of them before any get sold. Sunnybean has a great SBS to test the overall durability of a carrier. Oh man! Oh man! Oh man!!! With them manufacturing them, they can likely make one with a solid end rather than threading it.That'd be bad-ass for your application. I'd love to try and crack one that has never been drilled for an op rod... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TIMTIMTIM 57 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Ok I guess I will chime in with a probably "dumb" question. Are that many people messing up there carriers? I understand the left side and sbs. Will this be made of better material? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 What alloy are these? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azkamidaka 26 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 This is the best S12 news I've heard in quite a long time. Hell yeah! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 what is a guess on price. mine is cracked right now and wondering if i shuld fix it or hold out for one of yours. also does any one know the thred pitch for the op rod threds. I need to have a piece of brass or copper thredded the same to weld mine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug Hartley 526 Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I have more info. The carriers will be supplied with a right side screw in charging handle but will have the left side threaded so that the handle can be easily swapped from one side to the other. This way the carrier will fit any Saiga 12. Pricing is not fixed yet because the machine time for the production carriers is still being calculated. Expect aroung $200-225. Robert picked up the first carrier on Friday and is at the High Plains Shotgun Match now, but said that the carrier is smoother cycling than the stock ones because of cleaner machine work. He is going to start shooting the first prototype on Monday. Stand by. Doug 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
talaananthes 3 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 When can I buy one? We are going to test the crap out of them before any get sold. Robert is at the High Plains Shotgun Match and then next week we are both going to the Rockcastle Shotgun Match in Kentucky. I hope to have one to test soon. I got about 2000 rounds of AAs that need to get made into hulls! Killer! Thread in piston/op rod? Will you guys be making/offering pistons/op rods too? What would be the outcome if the op-rod was integrated into the carrier? Robert makes both long and short gas systems for his Saigas so he would have had to make 2 different carriers to make both work. This way it can fit all different Saiga variations. The left side bolt handle option is being built into all the bolts as you can see from the picture. Right side bolt handles will also be available. He has bucket loads of original Saiga op rods that can be included in the purchase of a carrier Doug If you're in KY next weekend, could I have a look at this? I may well be coming to Rockcastle . . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FOURBUX 22 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 It comes ready for a left hand charging handle? I'm in. Now we just need a dust cover to match... Also, any word on pricing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug Hartley 526 Posted June 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 When can I buy one? We are going to test the crap out of them before any get sold. Robert is at the High Plains Shotgun Match and then next week we are both going to the Rockcastle Shotgun Match in Kentucky. I hope to have one to test soon. I got about 2000 rounds of AAs that need to get made into hulls! Killer! Thread in piston/op rod? Will you guys be making/offering pistons/op rods too? What would be the outcome if the op-rod was integrated into the carrier? Robert makes both long and short gas systems for his Saigas so he would have had to make 2 different carriers to make both work. This way it can fit all different Saiga variations. The left side bolt handle option is being built into all the bolts as you can see from the picture. Right side bolt handles will also be available. He has bucket loads of original Saiga op rods that can be included in the purchase of a carrier Doug If you're in KY next weekend, could I have a look at this? I may well be coming to Rockcastle . . . Robert and I will both be at the Rockcastle Shotgun Match, stop us and say hello. I'll make sure he brings a carrier with him. Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 this is fantastic! glad to be seeing these parts being made available by the aftermarket. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 AND THE BEST PART MADE IN THE U.S.A. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Agent Lemon 157 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Will it have "U.S." stamped on it anywhere for easy identification? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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