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#31 GunFun

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 09:24 PM

Coolest thing I have seen in a while. I've been thinking about drilling to do my own charging handle that way for a while. You went out and did it.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:46 AM

can't wait. i need/want one!
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:48 AM

So pumped! Can't contain myself!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 07:18 AM

I am excited about this.
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:19 PM

Robert is going out to shoot the new carrier for the first time today, I hope to have video posted tonight, but we live 5 hours away from each other so I may have to do some training with him on Youtube. Production carriers will be marked with the R&R logo and USA!

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 05:23 PM

Here is a video of the first test of the new bolt carrier. As of today Robert has run 550 rounds of shot using this new bolt. Lots of testing ahead.

Doug


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Posted 28 June 2012 - 05:57 PM

That was cool but I was hoping to see all 550 roundsPosted Image or maybe a closeup.

stop scheme'n & look'n hard

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 06:28 PM

Looks good. How much? Posted Image

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 07:02 PM

Hey Robert I'll take one with a right sight handle anodized in red please, should look good with the rest of your parts.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 11:30 PM

Looks good like to see one,im at the rock castle
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 12:11 AM

So there is no piston screwed into the bolt carrier? Is that what I just saw in the video? If so, that's pretty cool (and strong). Should lead to increased reliability. What about your bolt? Is that also American made?
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Posted 29 June 2012 - 03:40 PM


Finally! I was wondering when someone was going to manufacture these. You will make gobbs of money off these. Congrats! Whats next the bolts?Posted Image


Actually he had the bolts in work before the carrier, but being a one man shop he got sidetracked with other projects. The bolts should be available soon.

Doug

fuck yes! this is what people have been waiting on for years! very good

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 04:18 PM

It would be nice to have the option to order these bolts polished or plated already. Then people dont have to wait 3 to 6 months for that service to be done on their bolts.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 06:14 PM

Hell I'm in!




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Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:36 PM

So there is no piston screwed into the bolt carrier? Is that what I just saw in the video? If so, that's pretty cool (and strong). Should lead to increased reliability. What about your bolt? Is that also American made?


Would be nice if the op-rod is incorporated or no longer needed.
Looks shorter than the stock part though, like it's for a short gas system.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:02 PM


So there is no piston screwed into the bolt carrier? Is that what I just saw in the video? If so, that's pretty cool (and strong). Should lead to increased reliability. What about your bolt? Is that also American made?


Would be nice if the op-rod is incorporated or no longer needed.
Looks shorter than the stock part though, like it's for a short gas system.

Doug?


The op rod will attach to the bolt carrier in the same manner as the original, threaded. The bolt carrier in the video has a very short op rod attached because it is for a short gas system Saiga. The photos I put earlier in the thread show the carrier pretty well.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 04:38 PM

Nice work. Glad to see there is are repair options.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 05:19 PM

Very Nice!!!!! Posted Image

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 05:34 PM

Enough teasing already.... bring 'em!
I have been wanting to do a left side charging handle for a long time now, but didn't want to do it to any of my numbered carriers. I have a piece of titanium waiting to be made into a charging handle too. What will the CH threading be? How deep is the hole?

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 06:33 PM

Easy guts, testing is all about the part standing up to the recoil over and over again.
I know yall dont want a part that will fail in a few rounds, I know yall are picking(poking fun)
on R&R as well.
I to am VERY much wanting one, wonder if the finish will be an option?
Anyway yall take your time Doug, we know it will a good product.
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 08:20 PM

Easy guts, testing is all about the part standing up to the recoil over and over again.
I know yall dont want a part that will fail in a few rounds, I know yall are picking(poking fun)
on R&R as well.
I to am VERY much wanting one, wonder if the finish will be an option?
Anyway yall take your time Doug, we know it will a good product.

They could sell me one of the pre-release units, I'll beat the snot out of it with some Remington Express buck. If it breaks, I can send it back for them to examine, and they can send me another one when they are "refined". I'll pay to test....

I've really been wanting a non-welded left hand charging handle and don't want to modify a factory carrier to get it. My 3 Gun rig needs one badly, but I have a feeling that I will want one on everything after I try it.
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 10:18 AM

any updates?
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 07:38 PM

any updates?


Still testing, I'll see Robert this weekend at our match, the Northwest Multigun Challenge, and I'll ask him how it is going.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 08:16 PM

Because of this alone I'm getting another Saiga instead of waiting for a Vepr.

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 08:24 PM

Man I wish I could get into testing new products. I run everything I have, cars, guns, other like I stole them and best way to break things in.(and by the way I own, not steal my stuff so If I break it its my fault, a reason I don't borrow tools and such too.)
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 05:37 AM

Always have a good saying make it or break it. Trust me I have broke plenty.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:10 PM

New buttstock is coming as well, I believe Robert told me as of last friday he had over 1350 rounds tested on the carrier, who knows how many over the weeekend, but a couple more days and we'll be getting them WOOHOO.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:32 PM

sweet :up:

stop scheme'n & look'n hard

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 10:35 PM

I subscribe to the same mantra as Montec. I've seen an AR barrel turn white from heat, and I've loaded down my S-12 with so much west texas clay mud that it ceased to function. My father always said that if you want to find the weak point in something, just hand it to me. I break things in a most spectacular manner...

Exhibit A:

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The engine that this piston was in STILL runs...



See?

So send it to me, if it can be broken (through "normal" use), I'll do it...
I am now pulling back the thing that you pull back before you fire the gun...

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 12:41 PM

New buttstock is coming as well, I believe Robert told me as of last friday he had over 1350 rounds tested on the carrier, who knows how many over the weeekend, but a couple more days and we'll be getting them WOOHOO.


Robert built some fully adjustable buttstocks for the AMU and set one up for his gun. I hope I can sweet talk him into giving me one, they are really cool looking. I'll see if I can get a picture of his next weekend when we go to the Nordic Components Shotgun Match in St. Cloud, Minn.

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