look at my bullet guide...

[shootsmuch 9]

i had one mag that was giving me some FTFs and im talking only 5 or 6 jams till i repaired the mag which now works flawless. the Dinzag bullet guide looks alittle rough, is this normal breaking wear or is this guide wearing premature?

[thebuns1 4,323]

the gash looking damage may have been from the feeding failures...but if its doing its job and guiding the bullets and feeding properly, then i wouldnt let it worry you. the wear on the feed ramp and around the screw appear to be normal imo.

[Brian M1 50]

IMO, I wouldn't worry about that wear. You should see how scarred up plastic "built in" bullet guides in mags such as SGM's get, and still work.

on a side note.. I notice that Dinzag's bullet guides have a tapered leading edge, while CSS bullet guides are squared at that front edge. Does one perform better than the other, or are both styles equally as effective? I wonder this because new SGM's have a squared off built in bullet guide yet work fine that way. Then when those mags wear to a scarred up, tapered, edge, they seem to work just as well.

Edited July 12, 2012 by Brian M1

[mancat 2,368]

Your guide is getting beat up because your magazines sit too low. The bullet tip or case neck are scoring the bullet guide. It could eventually cause trouble. The bullets should really only ride along the top tapered edge of the guide.

 

I believe Dinzag was just trying to clone the general appearance of a factory Bulgarian .223 bullet guide.

 

Edited July 12, 2012 by mancat

[thebuns1 4,323]

my SGL31 has one similar to yours mancat. the factory guides seem to ride lower in the trunion than the ones we put in our saigas.

 

 

 

i noticed after i put one in my .223, and shooting it, it had slight wear marks similar to the OP's, but lacked the strike gashes. more like where the rounds and bolt were making slight contact. i would think the bolt is harder steel and will wear in the guide where it makes contact. but time will tell if it leads to future issues.

[mancat 2,368]

Well the factory guides are placed into a recess cut. I believe this is why the earlier "slabside" .223 Saigas have better luck with feeding from Galil steel mags; many of them have the flat trunnion recess cut, and so the guide does sit lower.

[Brian M1 50]

On a sidenote (sorry.. don't mean to threadjack), for those of you that installed your bullet guide via screw, which locktite did you use? I know they reccomend "Red", but wouldn't "blue" be better, so as to be (more easily) replaceble if it gets worn?

[thebuns1 4,323]

Well the factory guides are placed into a recess cut. I believe this is why the earlier "slabside" .223 Saigas have better luck with feeding from Galil steel mags; many of them have the flat trunnion recess cut, and so the guide does sit lower.

 

that would make sense.

 

On a sidenote (sorry.. don't mean to threadjack), for those of you that installed your bullet guide via screw, which locktite did you use? I know they reccomend "Red", but wouldn't "blue" be better, so as to be (more easily) replaceble if it gets worn?

 

i used blue permatex. i always use blue. for what its worth, i have an old revolver that has a cylinder release adjustment screw that i used the blue shit on, and it made it to good. i used too much and it locked up the action. very hard to break free. so i feel it will hold just fine.

 

ill get some pics of mine for a comparison when i get my barrel and receiver back from my buddy who was welding up the holes. mine fed flawless when testing it out with hi cap mags before i gutted it.

[shootsmuch 9]

this wear happened all in the time period of the 5 or 6 jams that i have incountered. i have another saiga same Dinzag guide which i have shot just as much but never used this one problem mag that caused the wear on the one pictured above and there is no where near the wear that this guide has. Im just wondering about the knife edge design of the Dinzag or maybe the material hardness?

if this was a factory original riveted guide or guide that was machined as part of the reciever that wore in a rifle after 5 jams i think i would be alittle pissed, luckily i can just warm this and unscrew it and put a new one in, not too happy about having to dump another 25 bucks however.

Edited July 12, 2012 by shootsmuch