Moose458 2 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 I just got a converted Saiga-12, and am thinking about putting a Burris Fast Fire III red dot scope on it. It's main purpose is for home defense and I want a quick target acquisition. So does anybody have any experience with a red dot scope on your Saiga? How well do they stand up to the recoil of a 12 gauge? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tofu1998 2 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Depends... I've used two Bushnell Trophy TRS-25. The first one failed after a few shots. The second one holds zero till today. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fitty% 808 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Yeah its all about the quality of the optic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutalGardener 205 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 I find the Russian PK-AS to be a perfect match for the S-12. I can shoot clays with it all day. Very quick, both-eyes-open target acquisition. The sight's body just disappears and all that you see is that big 50 MoA circle and the 1 MoA dot. Also, works without batteries (or if the red dot goes out) during the day or if you have a decent light on your weapon, at night too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chicagosfinest 26 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 I have the trs-25 and shoot 3 gun with it and it rocks. Have about 1000 rounds threw it and the gun being throw around and droped and holds zero no problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G-30 8 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 I use a Aimpoint on mine with no issues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goose 95 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 My next purchase will be a Trijicon RMR and probaby the R&R mount that replaces the rear sight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.BlahX3 12 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Burris sells the Fast Fire II with mounts for pump shotguns, that's what I'm putting on mine. Build still in progress so no personal experience yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmacken37 4 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Primary Arms micro dot is holding up great on the FA Saiga that gunfixr made for me. Jake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nimbus 4 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 I have an Eotech on mine..works great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug Hartley 526 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 I've had a Fast Fire 1 on my first Saiga since I got it in 2009. Works great on a shotgun but another I had on a Glock got wrecked after about 1000 rounds. The Fast Fire 1 & 2 (I have not seen a 3 yet)use small screws to hold the glass window in place and the recoil would shake them loose. Burris replaced mine every time I had a problem but I was out of action till I got them back. I actually bought a spare so I would have one to send in for repair. I also have a C-More STS that lived on my Saiga for a while but now resides on as a side dot on my match rifle and a Aimpoint H-1 that is on my match Saiga. The C-More STS is a good choice and only a little more expensive than the Burris. It has a click switch that moves left and right not front to back so is not affected by recoil plus the switch has 3 positions instead of the 2 position Burris switch. The H-1 is more expensive than most other red dots, except perhaps the Trijicon, but is more rugged, has better battery life and is not effected by water on the lens. With any sight that bounces the light back at you, if water gets on the lens you will have multiple reflected dots when you look in the sight. The Aimpoint is closer to a regular scope and the dot is generated inside the tube, not reflected, so even if the sight is wet you still only see one dot. The Aimpoint is high quality optic that was designed for military use so was made to take abuse. Most civilian optic products will work well but will generally not stand up to the punishment that military optics are designed to take. Doug 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goose 95 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Good point, water on the lens would have never crossed my mind..until I had water on the lens that is lol. Kinda like how you can drive for so long with shitty wipers. Then it rains... P.S.-while you're here and on that topic, does the winged sight mount on yalls website fit the RMR? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug Hartley 526 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 R&R now has a winged mount to fit the RMR, should have pictures on the website this week but you can order it via phone now. Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sian 14 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Should hold up fine, S12 recoil is milder than a pump. I use a cheapass pro-point on mine, does fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warthog35F 11 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 We're can I find a 1913 rail mounting capable russian kobra red dot anyone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sKott 26 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) I like the Kobra Edited August 5, 2012 by sKott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asmodeus 13 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 I've considered the TRS-25. But also the C-more. I have a few things it could end up on so investing a little more in the STS might be the right way to go in the long run. It would also be nice to put 3 TRS 25's on 3 different guns instead of just one though as well. So I haven't made a move yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
45Bretired 19 Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 I myself am torn between a Eotech 552 I think, Aimpoint Comp M2 and a Aimpoint Comp M4. I have all three sitting in the safe and I'm going with that 1913 rail rear sight replacement that CSS has. But I guess I'll have to try all 3 to figure out what works best for me. If I didn't have them I'd probably go with a micro dot of some kind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BOB A. BOOEY 45 Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Im gettign a TRS next month. Ive nothing but great things and the price is right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sneaky 2 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Have an eotech xps on mine. Lays the slugs in @ 100yds still. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 ..... and I thought I was crazy for wanting to use an Aimpoint T-1 on my 3 G rig. Looks like that may nit have been such a crazy idea. As rough as I am on stuff, I tend to "buy once". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 ..... and I thought I was crazy for wanting to use an Aimpoint T-1 on my 3 G rig. Looks like that may nit have been such a crazy idea. As rough as I am on stuff, I tend to "buy once". Nothing crazy about it, they work great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 I put my Mepor Israeli reflex on the saiga using a side rail mount. It was a little high so it didn't feel right. Even if I got a more natural alignment it would still not be worth putting it on a shotgun. It might be nice but not really needed if you shoot it a bunch. I don't really even need sights on my shotgun. If anything, I would suggest you put a nice surefire flashlight on your weapon and whatever it lights up, will be sprayed. Blinding the home invader before you ace them is the way to go! Even gives you a little extra time to distinguish between white and black hat. I tried to like aimpoints and reflex sights on shotguns but it just isn't happening for me. ..... and I thought I was crazy for wanting to use an Aimpoint T-1 on my 3 G rig. Looks like that may nit have been such a crazy idea. As rough as I am on stuff, I tend to "buy once". Nothing crazy about it, they work great. Just make sure to tell them about your stock and how it makes it all work! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jon_L 6 Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 I like your set-up, TX-Zen. Looks like the best set-up for me I've seen so far Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chicagosfinest 26 Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 What stock is that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 It's an SVDS stock adapted by Izhmash at the factory to fit the 5.5mm AK folding trunnion Bottom is the cut receiver of an SVDS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chicagosfinest 26 Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Whats that buttom looking thing towards the but end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goose 95 Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 It looks like it holds the cheek rest in place by pressing it against the pin in front of it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ufo 20 Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Used: - Eotech 552 - C-more STS Right now: C-more + 4MOA dot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lead Poison 2 Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 I just got a converted Saiga-12, and am thinking about putting a Burris Fast Fire III red dot scope on it. It's main purpose is for home defense and I want a quick target acquisition. So does anybody have any experience with a red dot scope on your Saiga? How well do they stand up to the recoil of a 12 gauge? You have to turn those on and off correct? Wouldnt an iron sight be better for home protection as far as the time needed to benefit from a red dot? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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