gunfun 3,931 Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Right. I knew something was off. I should get some more sleep. Link to post Share on other sites
timy 1,185 Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Mike Davidson has done more good for the world than any Hoffa ever has. He's worth worrying about. Not arguing that (other than maybe from the Teamsters Union viewpoint) just that the search for Mike Davidson has been just as productive. Has anyone tried eBay? Jimmy Hoffa on eBay - Find Jimmy Hoffa for less. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MAAnew 162 Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 In the past, Mike has refused to sell his mold because his new magazine will make the drum obsolete. Not sure if Mike's new invention will be out by the end of the year, but there will be a new drum coming out by Christmas that will be far superior to any drum currently on the market. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
zenman223 460 Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 but there will be a new drum coming out by Christmas that will be far superior to any drum currently on the market. SAY WHUUUUUT?? You know you cant just come around and make such a claim without elaborating!!! Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Hmmm... A 30 rounder in the size of a 20? So no forum member lives close to MDARMS?? Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Merry Christmas Link to post Share on other sites
Yoshi 87 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Popcorn no butter. Link to post Share on other sites
BuzzNectar 35 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Popcorn no butter. LOL. Great way to say it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 In the past, Mike has refused to sell his mold because his new magazine will make the drum obsolete. Not sure if Mike's new invention will be out by the end of the year, but there will be a new drum coming out by Christmas that will be far superior to any drum currently on the market. A drum made by who? Link to post Share on other sites
horatio 515 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) In the past, Mike has refused to sell his mold because his new magazine will make the drum obsolete. Not sure if Mike's new invention will be out by the end of the year, but there will be a new drum coming out by Christmas that will be far superior to any drum currently on the market. this isn't a rumor about something from chaos is it? its been awfully quiet on that front Edited September 11, 2012 by fatty alcohol Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 ever think Mike got bought out? i mean, why else would you shut shop the hell down totally. maybe someone offered him money for the double stack patent, and then included a cease and decist or no competition agreement in there. lets take a reality check here for a second....what would cause that effect? THAT right there. you ESPECIALLY wouldnty shut your company and website totally down and stop taking calls from vendors. its the only thing that makes sense. even if he were dead, the website would be up. I mean, unless he is wicked pissed off at something... thats the only thing i can come up with. I cant be seeing anyone getting that pissed off to close shop unless they had a lot of money in front of them from a competitor or a major habit. and i doubt its the second option. just my 02c 1 Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Makes as much sense as anything, but I would expect some kind of "exciting details coming soon" thing on his site, and an eventual redirect to his purchaser. He would want to keep his goodwill with vendors up and sell that too. Normally clients are a big part of the sale price, and they retain an on call status for a while to smooth out transitions. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 In the past, Mike has refused to sell his mold because his new magazine will make the drum obsolete. Not sure if Mike's new invention will be out by the end of the year, but there will be a new drum coming out by Christmas that will be far superior to any drum currently on the market. Nathan, why would he fold up shop though. to regroup his assets and debts? why shut his name totally down?? and not talk to any vendors? it dont make sense. not a great business plan, if thats whats up. I heard the rumors and reports, it just dont make sense. why would he drop shop, when he has his marketing and vendors alreay in place? it dont make sense man. maybe in that case, he purged something, but you still dont drop the whole site and stuff. patent infringement is the other thing i can think of, but i havent researched someone else's product for that but once in the last two years. whatever it is, i hope Mike is laughing at us right now, from Tahiti drinking a mai tai barefoot in shorts on the beach. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Spartacus 1,619 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 In the past, Mike has refused to sell his mold because his new magazine will make the drum obsolete. Not sure if Mike's new invention will be out by the end of the year, but there will be a new drum coming out by Christmas that will be far superior to any drum currently on the market. Well.... that is if we see Christmas this year. It'll be just my luck that I'll be checking the UPS tracking on my new "far superior to any drum currently on the market" drum and the update will say: Expected delivery 12-21-2012 Package out for delivery Delivery cancelled due to end of world 3 Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Well.... that is if we see Christmas this year. It'll be just my luck that I'll be checking the UPS tracking on my new "far superior to any drum currently on the market" drum and the update will say: Expected delivery 12-21-2012 Package out for delivery Delivery cancelled due to end of world Or you'll open it up, say "OMG this IS the BEST drum EVER!"......... then the comet hits 3 Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyDingDongs 158 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 I say we all just wish for the best! Eh.. Actually, I think I'll just play it by ear... 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Syndicate 812 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 my favorite poster of all time Link to post Share on other sites
MAAnew 162 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Mike did not get bought out. I don't know why he is not communicating with dealers, but he has done it in the past with the initial run and in between runs, so this isn't anything new. Mike is one of our favorite vendors to deal with. We know he is still alive and probably monitoring the forum. Hopefully his new box magazine comes out and people forget about him disappearing this time. Mike did not patent his drum, so anyone can copy the design without any consequences. With the price of the mold, the only place that could possibly duplicate his drum and sell at a reasonable price would be someone in Asia. The new company that is releasing the new drum is an extremely well known US manufacturer. We were asked to not let their name out at this time, but they are extremely reliable and already have the prototype made. Everyone will be happy to see them jump into the drum market. ever think Mike got bought out? i mean, why else would you shut shop the hell down totally. maybe someone offered him money for the double stack patent, and then included a cease and decist or no competition agreement in there. lets take a reality check here for a second....what would cause that effect? THAT right there. you ESPECIALLY wouldnty shut your company and website totally down and stop taking calls from vendors. its the only thing that makes sense. even if he were dead, the website would be up. I mean, unless he is wicked pissed off at something... thats the only thing i can come up with. I cant be seeing anyone getting that pissed off to close shop unless they had a lot of money in front of them from a competitor or a major habit. and i doubt its the second option. just my 02c 2 Link to post Share on other sites
supertex 242 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 the new drum, how many rounds, price ? Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Even if he is coming out with the newest, biggest, baddest, best drum ever made in the world to end all drums and wants to keep it a secret. Its not a very good idea to just shut down all communication with the world. He still has a customer base to keep in contact with and a warranty to honor. Not a good way to keep happy customers. If that is all it boils down too, its pretty disrespectful and all around poor business choice. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 I know I'm looking forward to this new drum, and will sell every other plastic drum I have if that's what it takes to get restocked with a much better product. I always hated the current designs anyway. They suck. Anybody with any sense would much rather load a drum from the rear like a Chinese AK drum. It's also ridiculously wasted space and clutter being a circular path instead of a snail design IMO. EDIT>> Apparently this post comes across as a bit too negative. Sorry I just have my own feelings on the whole drum issue, 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Garys4598 1,065 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 . . . I always hated the current designs anyway. They suck. . . . Like, wow. . . just wow. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 MAA-- to clarify, is Mr. Davidson making this new drum with a company, or is it some unrelated company? Also since it must be a beta 75 shot how are we going to afford the ammo? I have to agree with Cobra about other designs being nicer to work with, but "hate" seems a mite strong. The MD 20 and the 12 shot drum are still great, even though they only handle short shells. Also, since the MD20s are going to be super obsolete, I'll give you $20 each for any you got stuck with. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I know I'm looking forward to this new drum, and will sell every other plastic drum I have if that's what it takes to get restocked with a much better product. I always hated the current designs anyway. They suck. Anybody with any sense would much rather load a drum from the rear like a Chinese AK drum. It's also ridiculously wasted space and clutter being a circular path instead of a snail design IMO. Rims plus Chinese type rear loading= engineer pulling their hair out. Helical has more potential, but they rely on everything slipping almost perfectly. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
filthygovemploye 64 Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 In the past, Mike has refused to sell his mold because his new magazine will make the drum obsolete. Not sure if Mike's new invention will be out by the end of the year, but there will be a new drum coming out by Christmas that will be far superior to any drum currently on the market. but its a drum, which is inferior to the stick mags. i doubt i will be impressed ever think Mike got bought out? i mean, why else would you shut shop the hell down totally. maybe someone offered him money for the double stack patent, and then included a cease and decist or no competition agreement in there. lets take a reality check here for a second....what would cause that effect? THAT right there. you ESPECIALLY wouldnty shut your company and website totally down and stop taking calls from vendors. its the only thing that makes sense. even if he were dead, the website would be up. I mean, unless he is wicked pissed off at something... thats the only thing i can come up with. I cant be seeing anyone getting that pissed off to close shop unless they had a lot of money in front of them from a competitor or a major habit. and i doubt its the second option. just my 02c no, we would have known aboot it In the past, Mike has refused to sell his mold because his new magazine will make the drum obsolete. Not sure if Mike's new invention will be out by the end of the year, but there will be a new drum coming out by Christmas that will be far superior to any drum currently on the market. Well.... that is if we see Christmas this year. It'll be just my luck that I'll be checking the UPS tracking on my new "far superior to any drum currently on the market" drum and the update will say: Expected delivery 12-21-2012 Package out for delivery Delivery cancelled due to end of world ya, but in the gun world everything is always delayed, so maybe by memorial day next year Mike did not get bought out. I don't know why he is not communicating with dealers, but he has done it in the past with the initial run and in between runs, so this isn't anything new. Mike is one of our favorite vendors to deal with. We know he is still alive and probably monitoring the forum. Hopefully his new box magazine comes out and people forget about him disappearing this time. Mike did not patent his drum, so anyone can copy the design without any consequences. With the price of the mold, the only place that could possibly duplicate his drum and sell at a reasonable price would be someone in Asia. The new company that is releasing the new drum is an extremely well known US manufacturer. We were asked to not let their name out at this time, but they are extremely reliable and already have the prototype made. Everyone will be happy to see them jump into the drum market. ever think Mike got bought out? i mean, why else would you shut shop the hell down totally. maybe someone offered him money for the double stack patent, and then included a cease and decist or no competition agreement in there. lets take a reality check here for a second....what would cause that effect? THAT right there. you ESPECIALLY wouldnty shut your company and website totally down and stop taking calls from vendors. its the only thing that makes sense. even if he were dead, the website would be up. I mean, unless he is wicked pissed off at something... thats the only thing i can come up with. I cant be seeing anyone getting that pissed off to close shop unless they had a lot of money in front of them from a competitor or a major habit. and i doubt its the second option. just my 02c i will only buy it if its magpul, or troy, or other well known and RESPECTED ar mag maker Even if he is coming out with the newest, biggest, baddest, best drum ever made in the world to end all drums and wants to keep it a secret. Its not a very good idea to just shut down all communication with the world. He still has a customer base to keep in contact with and a warranty to honor. Not a good way to keep happy customers. If that is all it boils down too, its pretty disrespectful and all around poor business choice. hm, it has people talking aboot him though right? its an old biz trick, no???or at least hollyweird goes that route when they want attention... Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Syndicate 812 Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 I found a pic of what the owner of MD Arms thinks about this thread... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
snooter 6 Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 I know I'm looking forward to this new drum, and will sell every other plastic drum I have if that's what it takes to get restocked with a much better product. I always hated the current designs anyway. They suck. Anybody with any sense would much rather load a drum from the rear like a Chinese AK drum. It's also ridiculously wasted space and clutter being a circular path instead of a snail design IMO. EDIT>> Apparently this post comes across as a bit too negative. Sorry I just have my own feelings on the whole drum issue, no need to forward a mea culpa..you are right... Link to post Share on other sites
h3ws12hi 15 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 FWIW, just browsing through a seasonal (rec'd Aug 2012)Cabela's shooting supply mag and came across two offerings of drum mags one ten rounder and one twenty rounder. Looks like what MD offers but I don't know for sure...Maybe Cabela's bought out his design and is now marketing it for less... 10rdr=69.99 20rdr=79.99 First time I ever saw Cabela's offer anything for Saiga's... Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Probably Promag drums not MD. ^^ Link to post Share on other sites
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