mokanracer 4 Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 (edited) I remember long ago,a topic addressing this prob but couldnt find it. I tiook my Saigas ,7.62x39 and my 12 gauge Saiga out this afternoon and had a good time. I noticed the brass casing for my 7.62 had dented the shell casings,as I was picking up the brass. Seemed they all had this dent. Gun fired perfect even with this,problem? Can Any one describe whats goingon,, for me?? Thx.. Roger Edited August 13, 2012 by Mokanracer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 When the shell is ejected, it strikes the charging handle, denting the case just below the shoulder. This happens with any AK that has a stock charging handle. If you remove the charging handle, go to a left-side charging handle, this problem is eliminated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mokanracer 4 Posted August 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Thank you for the response. I will stop worrying.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 When the shell is ejected, it strikes the charging handle, denting the case just below the shoulder. This happens with any AK that has a stock charging handle. If you remove the charging handle, go to a left-side charging handle, this problem is eliminated. I thought it was from hitting the dust cover? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 You're correct. I misremembered. Heh, looked up some high-speed videos just to check. It is from the dust cover, not the charging handle. Moving the charging handle will do nothing. *stands corrected* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigtwin 219 Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 Do not worry about these dents, they will be ironed out with reloading. The slight mark after resizing the brass is just that, a mark! I have reloaded a bunch of them.....even those evil ones with the "stepped chamber" without any issues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Eagle 839 Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 The cheap fix is to get a piece of automotive door edging and put it on the dust cover at the rear of the ejection port. Some people run it the entire length of the ejection port as well. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 Do not worry about these dents, they will be ironed out with reloading. The slight mark after resizing the brass is just that, a mark! I have reloaded a bunch of them.....even those evil ones with the "stepped chamber" without any issues. ^ This is very bad advice. Your dies will not fully iron out the dent, and that area IS weakened. While it isn't 100% definitely going to happen, when you leave a weak spot you increase the chance of your case wall blowing out when the cartridge is fired. Usually this will only result in a broken shell that needs to be extracted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Groovy Mike 36 Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 Do not worry about these dents, they will be ironed out with reloading. The slight mark after resizing the brass is just that, a mark! I have reloaded a bunch of them.....even those evil ones with the "stepped chamber" without any issues. This is exactly right. I have reloaded and fired thousands of dented cases multiple times from multiple firearms. As a side note - neither the large dent or the fluted chamber marks from HK and Cetme style rifles harm the brass for reloading either. If you don't want to use them, I'd be happy to pay the shipping from you to me and use them myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigtwin 219 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Do not worry about these dents, they will be ironed out with reloading. The slight mark after resizing the brass is just that, a mark! I have reloaded a bunch of them.....even those evil ones with the "stepped chamber" without any issues. ^ This is very bad advice. Your dies will not fully iron out the dent, and that area IS weakened. While it isn't 100% definitely going to happen, when you leave a weak spot you increase the chance of your case wall blowing out when the cartridge is fired. Usually this will only result in a broken shell that needs to be extracted. Really....Bad advise? I think not! I guess my years of reloading have failed me! No they will not be "fully ironed out", but they are still very useful. Anyone that reloads should have or should learn to understand pressures and the signs. Inspect your cases always for signs of weak points as they occure! My guess Is that you remove every piece of brass that looks different? Not trying to get into a pissing match....just want to know why you think reloading dented brass is an issue. More so if you know what to look for! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigChongus 765 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Do not worry about these dents, they will be ironed out with reloading. Do not worry about these dents, they will be ironed out with reloading. The slight mark after resizing the brass is just that, a mark! I have reloaded a bunch of them.....even those evil ones with the "stepped chamber" without any issues. ^ This is very bad advice. Do not worry about these dents, they will be ironed out with reloading. The slight mark after resizing the brass is just that, a mark! I have reloaded a bunch of them.....even those evil ones with the "stepped chamber" without any issues. This is exactly right. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 intorwebs advice. aways great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
banshee 69 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) You will lose more brass to split necks and loose primer pockets than to dents on the sides of the case. Edited August 17, 2012 by Banshee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
recondo74 0 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Does this happen with all Saigas? Is there a way to modify the action or housing to prevents this from happening? Or perhaps an aftermarket dust cover that is tried and true? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigChongus 765 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Does this happen with all Saigas? Is there a way to modify the action or housing to prevents this from happening? Or perhaps an aftermarket dust cover that is tried and true? All AKs, no matter what variant, will do this. Some people put window trim or other concoctions on there, but it looks ridiculous. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
recondo74 0 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Thanks for the help W8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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