KIRCH76 12 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 does anyone know if you can us this sprinv with high brass heavy load buck and slugs or do you have to change out springs when you change from low to high brass Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pikapp168 17 Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Pretty sure you have to change it. It helps for the cheap stuff to cycle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KIRCH76 12 Posted September 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 if thats the case the spring is worthless because you have to disassemble the whole gun to swap springs...i can get a gas booster bushing and swap that any time i want if thats the case the spring is worthless because you have to disassemble the whole gun to swap springs...i can get a gas booster bushing and swap that any time i want Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FoxHound 3 Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I tried the gas bushing... even that doesnt help sometimes. Its worth it to dissassemble it to replace the spring if you can shoot cheap walmart ammo a little easier Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KIRCH76 12 Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 the spring would be worth it if you could leave it in for all loads but you could not switch from light to heavy loads in the field. to me a shot gun is made to shoot heavy loads but its nice to go out and unload 100 rounds and only drop $25. Tony maybe you can bring some light on this subject. does the tromix light recoil spring need to be removed when cycling heavy loads? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FoxHound 3 Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I really don't see the big deal, to be honest. Keep the factory spring when you're hunting, then do the 5 minute disassemble and put the light spring for when you go to the range for some practice/skeet shooting I mean it would be nice to be able to have the perfect setup that shoots EVERY type of ammo, but as of now, if youre gun doesnt cycle light loads after breaking it in, then switching out the spring and adding a bushing is the best bet for cheap range plinking If you do find an answer, let me know. I still have to break my 1919 in with heavy hunting loads Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aerosigns 4 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Does anyone know if you can our should use the reduced spring and the buzzing at the same time? I am planning on using this gun for shooting games 362 days a year and deer slugs the other 3. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voonman 133 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Has anyone solved the issue to this problem with swapping out the recoil spring and gas bushing..Can you fire high brass when using the tromix recoil reduce spring? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
congewe 14 Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I've been running the reduced power recoil spring with a gas booster bushing. Low power target shells. Been working good for me. Have not noticed any unusual wear or damage to the gun. Changing the spring is a little inconvenient. If your gun runs the loads you prefer without it than no need to run it. If not the spring has worked well for me. I'll choose the inconvenience of the spring over the inconvenience of failure to feed or eject. As far as high brass heavy loads with reduced power spring. I think someone should run it for an extended time. Report back on gun wear and if any damage occurs. Who knows may work fine. I'm not willing to be the crash test dummy. If I broke my gun I would cry. When I cry I drink. When I drink I pee my pants. It just gets worse from there. Sorry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voonman 133 Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 thanx for your response..I was told that it can be ran with high brass but not alot.can anyone confirm this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Madwand 2 Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Wouldn't it allow more wear on the gun if you're not using the correct spring? I have the spring and the bushing, but was not sure where to install the bushing. I put it on top of that little spring, should it go under? Haven't shot it yet with the new stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 The truth is, we don't know. I don't have any plans to step and buy $25,000 worth of high brass ammo to test it, for a part that we make $5 bucks on. The spring is only 10% lighter than the stock one, so I kinda doubt the gun would be just fine with the stock spring and get beat to hell with the light spring.....but I have been wrong before. There has been no reported damage to the guns to date, and our limited testing has not shown any problems......but sure as shit, if I tell someone to run it with high brass, they will use their gun as a rental at a public range and tear it up. So my "official" response is not to run it with high powered ammo. Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I assure you, there is more than 10% variation in the stock springs themselves. we compared 50 springs from a consecutive # batch of guns the OAL varied over 5/8 of an inch. I would bet real money Tony's springs are vastly more consistent, and would fall between the extremes found in the stock springs. That said...I would take his advise! Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trappnguns 1 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I tried the gas bushing... even that doesnt help sometimes. Its worth it to dissassemble it to replace the spring if you can shoot cheap walmart ammo a little easier How many rounds are through it? Mine took a little extra (150- 200 rounds) to break in, even with the bushing. Runs like a champ now... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I tried the gas bushing... even that doesnt help sometimes. Its worth it to dissassemble it to replace the spring if you can shoot cheap walmart ammo a little easier How many rounds are through it? Mine took a little extra (150- 200 rounds) to break in, even with the bushing. Runs like a champ now... We found something interesting a few days ago, The NOT CYCLING problem follows the BARREL , testing a number of guns , had one that JUST WOULDN'T RUN , swapped JUST the barrel with one that runs 100% , problem went away, put the "bad" barrel in the gun that used to run 100% Problems followed the barrel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToysRUs 8 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 inconsistencies in the gas ports maybe?????? I assure you, there is more than 10% variation in the stock springs themselves. we compared 50 springs from a consecutive # batch of guns the OAL varied over 5/8 of an inch. I would bet real money Tony's springs are vastly more consistent, and would fall between the extremes found in the stock springs. That said...I would take his advise! Jim It would be nice to put some springs on the valve spring tester and see what comes up and how different the spring rates are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I tried the gas bushing... even that doesnt help sometimes. Its worth it to dissassemble it to replace the spring if you can shoot cheap walmart ammo a little easier How many rounds are through it? Mine took a little extra (150- 200 rounds) to break in, even with the bushing. Runs like a champ now... We found something interesting a few days ago, The NOT CYCLING problem follows the BARREL , testing a number of guns , had one that JUST WOULDN'T RUN , swapped JUST the barrel with one that runs 100% , problem went away, put the "bad" barrel in the gun that used to run 100% Problems followed the barrel. Thats an issue that has been with the gun from the begining of its importation. I dont think all of the MKA parts have ever been manufactured under one roof. About two years ago I found three reasons for this problem to be present. Those things, we check on every gun we build. Jim inconsistencies in the gas ports maybe?????? I assure you, there is more than 10% variation in the stock springs themselves. we compared 50 springs from a consecutive # batch of guns the OAL varied over 5/8 of an inch. I would bet real money Tony's springs are vastly more consistent, and would fall between the extremes found in the stock springs. That said...I would take his advise! Jim It would be nice to put some springs on the valve spring tester and see what comes up and how different the spring rates are. We did that in the design process to make the springs we manufacture. Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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