pbwe 45 Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 ,,, If trouble brews, bomb as required or desired. Super Moderator: YOUR Government at work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oUlQ7vElqqo An hours time, but that's the cost of education. Who's the significant enemy now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) pbwe; are you Canadian perchance??? Honestly, I started watching the above vid but at about 5 min in I lost interest -- could you please summarize in other terms than; "It is a condemnation of ...". Yup, I be a dummy. Edited September 15, 2012 by Odd Man Out 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 Keeping the audience interested goes a long way.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 Keeping the audience interested goes a long way.... Yep, Between yawns I just kind of drifted off trying to read the titles of the books behind her. I'm pretty sure she's kinda smart but I have no idea what she said. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ermac 8 Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 There is still a war on terror isn't there? Uh no actually, according to the worst president in our history, the war on terror is over and we are currently conducting an "overseas contingency operation". November can NOT get here fast enough -- if "we" re-elect the worst president in our history, then we deserve everything that's coming. What would George Dubya do any differently? Obama's foreign policy is not radically different from Dubya. I don't really get why the hard right hates Obama so much. I don't think the other guy is going to do any better, he might do worst in fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 History is history. Not much we can do about it w/o a time machine so I don't waste my time on it. I concentrate on the here and now and worry bout the idiot that is currently ruining our country. I would politely suggest you do the same -- it is a much better use of your time. The reason the "hard right", the center and the logically minded dislike Obama is because of his socialist, bowing, subservient to the rest of the world international policies and his bankrupting socialist economic domestic policies. I have nothing against the man -- I am sure he is a "nice" guy but I sure can not wait until he and his policies lie in the dustbin of history. See how I tied that all up? Nifty huh?!?! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GREYLUPO 358 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 People are always comparing obama to JFK. I hope his presidency ends the same way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 I don't -- I love my country and do not want to see more strife. An assassination would only do baaaaaaad things all the way around. If you want to dive into the conspiracy theory psychosis, you could envision an obby assassination bringing about a case of martial law. No sane person wants that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 I don't -- I love my country and do not want to see more strife. An assassination would only do baaaaaaad things all the way around. If you want to dive into the conspiracy theory psychosis, you could envision an obby assassination bringing about a case of martial law. No sane person wants that. Exactly. Although I fear if he is elected again, I don't want to see anyone dead. I would hope America is smart enough to remove him of its own accord 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Dude.. if ANYTHING happens to Obama.. BIDEN would be president... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Dude.. if ANYTHING happens to Obama.. BIDEN would be president... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ermac 8 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 History is history. Not much we can do about it w/o a time machine so I don't waste my time on it. I concentrate on the here and now and worry bout the idiot that is currently ruining our country. I would politely suggest you do the same -- it is a much better use of your time. The reason the "hard right", the center and the logically minded dislike Obama is because of his socialist, bowing, subservient to the rest of the world international policies and his bankrupting socialist economic domestic policies. I have nothing against the man -- I am sure he is a "nice" guy but I sure can not wait until he and his policies lie in the dustbin of history. See how I tied that all up? Nifty huh?!?! Those are weak reasons. Obama is no more of a "socialist" than the last President. http://useconomy.about.com/od/candidatesandtheeconomy/a/Obama-Bush-Economy.htm My reasons for disliking Obama are much more significant. How about the fact that Mr.Obama escalated conflict in the middle east? He vowed to end the war in Afghanistan, and instead he upped the effort. And he won a phony Nobel peace price award. Or what about the unnecessary conflict in Libya? Obama has wasted billions of dollars on pointless wars and military spending. All that money could have been used to stimulate the economy and rebuild our crumbling infrastructure. Obama is a war monger and has threatened world peace. Mitt Romney supporters can't dislike Obama for these reasons because Mitt Romney will carry out the same foreign policy to an even higher level. Mitt Romney looks like he wants to get into a shooting war with Iran,Russia, and China. This maniac could start WW3. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) Or how about rather than having his Dem controlled house get a budget passed he forced the health-care issue until they had no time left. Now hes blaming the Republicans for it. Either way, this is starting to beg to be put in the political section, maybe we can get back on track before this goes to the pass protected black hole Edit: I don't really know where back on track is for a thread like this, but the conversation has been interesting so I'd hate to see it black holed to political Edited September 16, 2012 by VR6Shooter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 If it is interesting does it really matter where it is put? All members have free access to all sections so putting it there would not inhibit the dialog. It would only for those looky loo's who are not commited enuf to join our merry band. now to respond... Ermac Weak or not they stand. I did not feel the need to dig deep for an answer seeing that there are reasons galore... Sounds like you are a ron paul devotee. If so maybe you should change your screen name to Don Quixote. Remember; a vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for obama -- a non vote is a vote for obama. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ermac 8 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Ermac Weak or not they stand. I did not feel the need to dig deep for an answer seeing that there are reasons galore... Sounds like you are a ron paul devotee. If so maybe you should change your screen name to Don Quixote. Remember; a vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for obama -- a non vote is a vote for obama. You can believe that Obama is a socialist all you want, but remember that tactic failed last election. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 No tactic brutha, just a fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Me too, just waitin... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ermac 8 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 No tactic brutha, just a fact. How is it a fact? The overwhelming amount of evidence suggests otherwise. http://blog.nj.com/njv_john_farmer/2010/05/if_obamas_policies_are_sociali.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ermac 8 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) Ermac Weak or not they stand. I did not feel the need to dig deep for an answer seeing that there are reasons galore... Why shouldn't you dig deep for answers? Do you blindly believe everything that CNN and Fox News tells you? Maybe you might learn something and change your narrow minded view on such things if you looked into these subjects deeper. The US has many socialized aspects already. I think the vast majority of people do not understand what socialism even is. Edited September 17, 2012 by Ermac Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 I am angry. that son of a bitch that made it was carried in saturday. There is no call to make War with the muslims, right now. ZERO. they need shot. these people are supposed to be our allies now.....are you seriously going to disrespec tthem that much? I say no. Im sorry folks. they need shot in the head. the terrorists attack ed us over it so what. It is a massive response to it, everyone knows you donbt do that shit. hang em. my 100% tar and feather them. i will not defend them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) No tactic brutha, just a fact. How is it a fact? The overwhelming amount of evidence suggests otherwise. http://blog.nj.com/n...re_sociali.html Ermac Weak or not they stand. I did not feel the need to dig deep for an answer seeing that there are reasons galore... Why shouldn't you dig deep for answers? Do you blindly believe everything that CNN and Fox News tells you? Maybe you might learn something and change your narrow minded view on such things if you looked into these subjects deeper. The US has many socialized aspects already. I think the vast majority of people do not understand what socialism even is. Ermac Baby, take a deep breath. It's all good. You don't need to waste your time trying to convince someone you have not and never will meet that they are wrong and you are right. It only demonstrates your dogmatism and intellectual insecurity. I bow to your superior arguements... (actually I'm tired of playing). To the audience: Thank you and I hope you have enjoyed this as much as I have. Y'all have a righteous right of center day! Edited September 17, 2012 by Odd Man Out 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 It all comes down to religious beliefs that demand power over others. None of this will ever change as long as those beliefs are alive. Not just talking about Islam. They KNOW that they are righteous just as every other belief KNOWs that they are the one true faith. It's extremely hard to kill an idea. Some argue that Islam is not a religion but a governing power. Religion is part of that way of life. I'm not religious and don't claim a faith in any god. But I do my best to live a good life and be not offensive or unkind to others. People killing each other in the name of their "prophet" or invisible friend in the sky is primitive and ignorant. This of course is my opinion and I'll probably get shit for it, but step back and look at what religion has gotten us for the past several thousand years: murder, torture, hatred, etc. No matter what the faith it is, most look at other beliefs as being below them. If anything, it'll ultimately be the destruction of the human race. Unrest in the middle east will not stop until one comes out on top. Then the unrest will be within that group itself. Our government needs to not be involved in a religious conflict. It's none of our business. We need to pull out stop the aid to this unsettled countries, and focus on our own problems. But.... Seems as though too many stand to profit from our soldiers being put in harms way abroad. You guys ready for war with Iran? Things will really pick up of Israel strikes. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Hey now! shiftin from the political to the religious -- me likey! I would say that man's interpretation of Christianity has caused the problems you mention -- not the baseline meaning and intent that Christ taught. Contrast that with the baseline meaning and intent of Islam. I agree with you that we need to leave the area alone except for Isreal -- it just strikes me as wrong that a small country over there is surrounded by nations that dispute their right to peace and existence and one (at least) is aggressively trying to gain the means to commit genocide. I understand that our nation is in decline and is getting more rendolent, self absorbed and lazy by the day but if we abdicate our duties towards Isreal, I fear that that will be the point of no return for us. But then there's 12-21-12, so it may all be moot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pbwe 45 Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 -- could you please summarize in other terms than; "It is a condemnation of ...". I have the opportunity to let Mit summarize it: In response to an audience question: Romney: [The] former head of Goldman Sachs, John Whitehead, was also the former head of the New York Federal Reserve. And I met with him, and he said as soon as the Fed stops buying all the debt that we're issuing—which they've been doing, the Fed's buying like three-quarters of the debt that America issues. He said, once that's over, he said we're going to have a failed Treasury auction, interest rates are going to have to go up. We're living in this borrowed fantasy world, where the government keeps on borrowing money. You know, we borrow this extra trillion a year, we wonder who's loaning us the trillion? The Chinese aren't loaning us anymore. The Russians aren't loaning it to us anymore. So who's giving us the trillion? And the answer is we're just making it up. The Federal Reserve is just taking it and saying, "Here, we're giving it." It's just made up money, and this does not augur well for our economic future. You know, some of these things are complex enough it's not easy for people to understand, but your point of saying, bankruptcy usually concentrates the mind. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/what-mitt-romney-also-said-glimpse-endgame In summary of Mitt's summary: The debt the Treasury sells and the Fed buys, is your obligation to pay back. Actually, the virtual purse string holders have no illusion that you will pay it back. Rather, they are content that you pay only the interest, on trillions and trillions of virtual dollars the Fed cartel has lent you (remember, the Fed is private banking cartel), regardless even if that obligation of payment is to the detriment of every single thing one may interpret to be beneficial about government, and consequently, what you may call your country, culture, or society. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 You took too long to respond -- I lost interest. Sorry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Donkeyshins 87 Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Marines were reportedly ordered to carry their weapons unloaded. There were no Marines stationed at the consulate in Benghazi. The Marines were at the US Embassy in Tripoli. However, the point is valid that the deaths were tragic and unnecessary. -D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 as a Marine.. I'd think you would want to beef security on the anniversary of 9/11 in hadji nations... then again, I think like a Marine, not a politician... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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