quest84 22 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I've saved up the cash and want one or the other, now which to choose and why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigj480 203 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) NM, I'm an idiot. Edited September 23, 2012 by -... .. --. .--- ....- --- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JayLT4 18 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Go with the Vepr, auto-regulating, hinged/railed top cover, mag well with plentiful mags, cheaper. The Saigas will come down in cost or sit on shelves. At least wait for a price drop with the Saigas or a converted version. IMHO, YMMV The Saiga 030 model has the same gas system, hinged top cover, mag-well, and available SMG magazines just like the VEPR-12. The VEPR-12 has a thicker receiver, better saftey mechanism, and the MOLOT factory has better QC (from what I have read) and better barrel technology. I have the Saiga 030 model (IZ433A), and if I was starting from scratch right now I'd go with the VEPR, mainly because it's a bit cheaper. For what I'll be using it for either one will do the job just fine though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeluvsk 58 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I would go with the Vepr over the 030 both are similar configurations however the quality of MOLOT over Izhmash is truely unmatched.. and the V12 is cheaper from the start imo will only climb in value over time. plus no conversion needed, vepr mags are cheaper. I know they say the vepr and 030 mags are not compatible however that's just something ill have to see for myself. they both have the same looking style magwells... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ec4321 113 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Where can one find VEPR Mags? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 VEPR and Izzy mags are interchangeable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeluvsk 58 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I thought they would be interchangeable however I could of swore I read somewhere SGM vepr mags wouldn't work in the 030 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Ak-47 49 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 It was posted that the ini Where can one find VEPR Mags? I read the mags will be avialble around the time the rifles hit the market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeluvsk 58 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I found that post concerning SGM Vepr and 030 mags.. Ok we thought the Izzy 030 model mags would work but they don't. Keep in mind we didn't make or convert anything on these shotguns. They are being imported just like the picture except the Molot buttstock is a wood laminate. It looks like since the Molot has a lrbho and a bolt hold open device things are just a little different. I am not certain if a quick modification to the mags will work so we are making a new mag so all the features on the shotgun will operate properly. So we will have the legion model mags (which are in stock) and the new Vepr 12 mags. As for pricing they will be the same as all of our other magwell mags, no reason to be greedy Thanks for the kind words, we are working very hard to launch these shotguns with mags ready to go at the same time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I'll revise my statement: the VEPR and 030 mags are interchangeable in the Saiga 12 030. The mags are not identical however. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
quest84 22 Posted September 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 i put my money down on a vepr, thanks guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lelandeod 179 Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 I'll have a V12 in my hands in a few weeks so I'll do a bit of a comparison with the three 030 clones I've built. I suspect I'll find them very close to each other. Lee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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