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wondering if the vepr 12 gauge would be NY legal saiga 12 have to have thumbhole stocks so im guessing the same would have to happen?

some have reported the akdal 1919 being sold in NY with full pistol grip im confused?

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Relevant bit from the NYS penal code :

 

22. "Assault weapon" means (a) a semiautomatic rifle that has an

ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the

following characteristics:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock;

(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of

the weapon;

(iii) a bayonet mount;

(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a

flash suppressor;

(v) a grenade launcher; or

(B) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following

characteristics:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock;

(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of

the weapon;

(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds;

(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine; or

© a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable

magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics:

(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the

pistol grip;

(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash

suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;

(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely

encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm

with the nontrigger hand without being burned;

(iv) a manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is

unloaded;

(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm;

or

(d) any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such

weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber, known

as:

(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all

models);

(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;

(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);

(iv) Colt AR-15;

(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;

(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;

(vii) Steyr AUG;

(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and

(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street

Sweeper and Striker 12;

 

(e) provided, however, that such term does not include: (i) any rifle,

shotgun or pistol that (A) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or

slide action; (B) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or © is an

antique firearm as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(16);

(ii) a semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine

that holds more than five rounds of ammunition;

(iii) a semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds

of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine;

(iv) a rifle, shotgun or pistol, or a replica or a duplicate thereof,

specified in Appendix A to section 922 of 18 U.S.C. as such weapon was

manufactured on October first, nineteen hundred ninety-three. The mere

fact that a weapon is not listed in Appendix A shall not be construed to

mean that such weapon is an assault weapon; or

(v) a semiautomatic rifle, a semiautomatic shotgun or a semiautomatic

pistol or any of the weapons defined in paragraph (d) of this

subdivision lawfully possessed prior to September fourteenth, nineteen

hundred ninety-four.

 

Not being a lawyer, it still seems pretty obvious that if you're talking about the default configuration shown here : http://www.shotgunnews.com/2011/11/02/new-molot-products-bound-for-the-us-vepr-12-tactical-shotgun/ - the VEPR 12 is not legal in NYS.

 

It accepts a detachable magazine (1), has a folding stock (2) and a pistol grip beneath the action (3). It may only have one of those features, so it has two too many.

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