EthanM 514 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Nice video gunfun. So, how are you supposed to pronounce it anyway? CS Specs or CSS pecs? ;-) What does that stand for? Post 582, http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/11660-what-does-your-screenname-mean/page-20I don't know how to pronounce it I just remember reading it in that thread. Yup, its just my gamer tag. It was actually a joke that stuck.. Now I'm stuck with that forever. I say as: C S specs One day I'll come up with a unique name that people can say. We actually had a really witty acronym. Civilian Sport Shooting Product & Equipment Creation Service.... But its a little long for a letter head.. Thats an awesome name. Heck I'd just go with it lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garnaz 215 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 In for one payment sent. Can hardly wait Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TacSat 90 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Will you be making a magwell version? Or is there to many variants? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Was able to do some more testing of the new mag with good results. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Whats with the knocking it on the last mag? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Ok here's the thing, I was planning on doing a video showing the abuse I have been putting it through. My plan was to get some some footage of me throwing the mag around, dropping it and beating it on shit, before I shot it. What happened basically is that my camera buddy couldn't come to man the camera, and once I got out there is was too cold to really spend the time I wanted to take to do a good torture test video. So what you see there is me halfway almost deciding to start beating up the mag real good before shooting that last mag, but deciding instead to just shoot the mag. After I turned the camera off I started setting up the camera differently to try to do a good abuse video, but my hands were freezing and that gave me the excuse to decide that the video just wasn't going to turn out well. So I called it a day and now the video has that weird inadvertent physical Freudian slip. Lol. I plan to do a good torture test video of me trying to tear up the mag a little bit. I have been dropping it, throwing it, and beating it on stuff ever sense I got it, somewhat to see if it could take it, but mainly because it seems like it can. So far I have yet to have any malfunction whatsoever and I have been very rough with it. But yeah it is a weird part of the video, similar to what Gunfun said, when the camera turns on I do odd shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Oh ok.. Makes sense. I'm going to guess that dents are entirely possible to generate. In testing Poly normally wins in drop tests, metal has a few big advantages in long term stress and cold weather. In Aks the drop test that metal wins at is when locked in the gun.. Such as the arsenal circle 10 drop videos. However, I would not subject a firearm to that treatment since it could cause damage to the firearm. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 The last two times I went out it was right around 10 degrees and I have been dropping it on concrete and hitting the rear lug. To me it seems like you could drive a nail with the back lug(I may do that). I won't be dropping my gun intentionally because I like it too much, but I have been dropping the mag fully loaded. I figured if I really beat it up I would get a few dents but I am OK with that and it has not dented yet. I'm sure that the poly mags would hold up pretty good to dropping but honestly I would not drop my polys fully loaded on concrete even if they would hold up. Obviously the steel lugs on these mags will not break easily so I am kinda just doing things I would not do with the polys. I plan on getting some video of my abuse of this mag but I don't want to ruin my polys so I won't be doing a side by side test, mainly because it is clear that the steel is gonna win especially in the frigid cold. If I do end up tearing the mag up that's OK with me as I view this as a test mag and I will buy more, I just want to see what they can take. I want to be clear about something, I am very confident that the izzy8 can hold up to being dropped and thrown around also, when I say I am not confident that my polys would hold up to serious abuse I am mainly referring to the back lugs of the non-reinforced domestic mags in frigid cold. Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't but I'm not gonna find out. I am going to get some more testing in this weekend but at the moment I can't get down my driveway due to the snow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Interestingly enough, the Russian 8 round is all plastic at the back. The only metal is on the front lug, and the clip on feedlips. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,930 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Sorry to give a boring report, but I took a few people from school out today and the magazines functioned flawlessly. I'd guess 175 ish rounds were fired, and maybe a third of those through CSSpecs mags. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garnaz 215 Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Got it today Fit it to one,the other has a factory mag catch and would take alot more fitting. May work with lrbho as is. Going shooting tomorrow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garnaz 215 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Got it today Fit it to one,the other has a factory mag catch and would take alot more fitting. May work with lrbho as is. Going shooting tomorrow. This mag is awesome! Worked great need to mod hold open alittle but worked great all around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Had a couple magazine problems today. About 30 degrees, shooting Federal Top Gun, two rounds didn't pop up, had to take the mag out, and tap the bottom to jar 'em loose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,930 Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Could you tell what caused it: i.e. grit in mag, burrs on follower or in mag body, pinched mag body, follower tilt, rim lock? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 I haven't really looked at it yet, but I'll take a look for such things when I clean the S-12 later, see if I can re-create it too. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Nothing, couldn't get it to do it again, didn't see much grit in it, cleaned it out and the follower will slide end to end just fine. My only guess would be temp, but it was colder when K.o.t.H. went testing. Might have to stick it and some ammo in my freezer and see if that does anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,930 Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Maybe there was a bulge on the shells or a burr on the rim. The only times I've had lifting issues with my SGM mags were due to chewed up rims making the shell effectively wider at the rim due to opposing extractor marks, and in one case just a defective rim from the factory. (And one of those was a full 12 rounder of 3" mags that were kinda chewed up) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Could be that too, guess this means I'll have to shoot more, damn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 I'd agree that it could have been a slightly burred rim.. Sometimes they don't cause a problem and feed like normal. Do you recall if you loaded on a closed or open bolt. I have found that the shells are less deformed loading on an open bolt. I'm sure that would translate to a improved function with a large volume of shells. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Open bolt, this mag is much harder to load on a closed bolt than the SGMs, so I haven't gotten good at it yet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Did you get an extra follower with your magazine? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,930 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Open bolt, this mag is much harder to load on a closed bolt than the SGMs, so I haven't gotten good at it yet You have to be a lot more deliberate about pushing up before pushing forward, because the shell sits higher in the mag, and the front lug is smaller. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 That something I noticed about the front lug earlier, about .03" smaller than the SGM, and it sits at an angle that kinda helps to force the mag out when you try to rock it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leadsled 40 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Just ordered one. Can't wait. Do these springs fit in SGM 8 rounders and would they be available for order? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Did you get an extra follower with your magazine? Just saw this, yes I did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Are you using the one that came installed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Yes. But I switched them over at home to see if it had any effect that I would be able to see at home, and it didn't. I couldn't get it to do it at home even with my most beat up shells. (some dummy rounds I made for practicing reloads) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,070 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) Fitting instructions? Am I missing these somewhere? Found them. You should sticky them in your forum and/or website. Edited February 23, 2014 by ChileRelleno Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I'll do that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,930 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 your latest video was just right. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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