bulldog_shotgun 47 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 http://news.yahoo.com/obama-win-u-backs-u-n-arms-treaty-193445288.html UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Hours after U.S. President Barack Obama was re-elected, the United States backed a U.N. committee's call on Wednesday to renew debate over a draft international treaty to regulate the $70 billion global conventional arms trade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Superhawk138 202 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Here we go ding ding round two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Wish I could say I was surprised. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Hopefully it gets blocked again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Won't take too many republicans to sign on to ratify since the democrats picked up seats in the senate. We are pulley fucked. I'll sure Barry told em he'd have more wiggle room after the election, and to just give him a call. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
red308 54 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 revolution anyone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Well if his re-election doesnt drive prices and availability up, shit like this oughtta seal the deal. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ndmak 10 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 i read the article but still need a further breakdown. what i understand is that the treaty will apply to exporting firearms. "We seek a treaty that contributes to international security by fighting illicit arms trafficking and proliferation, protects the sovereign right of states to conduct legitimate arms trade, and meets the concerns that we have been articulating throughout," the official said. that is what concerns me. what does that actually mean? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Freighttrain 20 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Yes,it does only apply to exports.....but you gotta look at it this way.Sure you can import guns....but any and all gun you import has to have first been exported from another country....so there is the catch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 If its only an import ban... (I know. Highly doubtful) Maybe an American company can/will produce American AK type rifles. I know this isn't just AKs we would lose, but if it's not an all encompassing AWB and only affects our imports, it could be profitable for American companies. Century already makes milled American AKs. Nodak makes stamped receivers. Several companies make small milled/CNC parts. We have barrel and furniture makers. I just don't see why we couldn't do it all here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 My wife and I were discussing potential firearms legislation and the feasability of entering the firearms industry about 10 minutes before I saw this last night. I estimated that the administration would wait until just after the mid-term elections before they tried anything like this. Looks like they are not concerned about losing seats.... almost like they know they will win. Makes you wonder about those ballot machines that are owned by george soros and service by the Service Employees International UNION. If its only an import ban... (I know. Highly doubtful) Maybe an American company can/will produce American AK type rifles. I know this isn't just AKs we would lose, but if it's not an all encompassing AWB and only affects our imports, it could be profitable for American companies. Century already makes milled American AKs. Nodak makes stamped receivers. Several companies make small milled/CNC parts. We have barrel and furniture makers. I just don't see why we couldn't do it all here. American labor is too expensive. What you could get for $500 before would likely cost upwards of $750. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 My wife and I were discussing potential firearms legislation and the feasability of entering the firearms industry about 10 minutes before I saw this last night. I estimated that the administration would wait until just after the mid-term elections before they tried anything like this. Looks like they are not concerned about losing seats.... almost like they know they will win. Makes you wonder about those ballot machines that are owned by george soros and service by the Service Employees International UNION. If its only an import ban... (I know. Highly doubtful) Maybe an American company can/will produce American AK type rifles. I know this isn't just AKs we would lose, but if it's not an all encompassing AWB and only affects our imports, it could be profitable for American companies. Century already makes milled American AKs. Nodak makes stamped receivers. Several companies make small milled/CNC parts. We have barrel and furniture makers. I just don't see why we couldn't do it all here. American labor is too expensive. What you could get for $500 before would likely cost upwards of $750. This is something I was thinking about too... But I'm worried that a shop may too easily fail right now. That's why I'm getting into the firearms instruction area. I'll be offering NRA instruction courses in the spring. That'll be profitable enough to keep it going, hopefully. I get ya on the pricing aspect for the American labor. $750 for a nicely built American AK when others may not be available to us, and we (some of us) are already willing to pay $1k plus for Arsenals, doesn't sound too bad. Even if the American builder was just an assembler that bought parts from the other companies, I think they could get the quality and enough production to have a good market. AKs built on American receivers are already available and look at all the small parts that are produced even by our vendors. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mostholycerebus 415 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 But is it going to affect parts kits or cheap imported ammo? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 It's all about our apparent inability to produce a quality AK barrel in significant numbers for a reasonable price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Syndicate 812 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Don't worry I sent a wild pack of 12 year olds armed with shit bags and matches to ding dong ditch. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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