chevyman097 2,579 Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Show your proof. There are many buyers that reported no problems with crooked rails. Where do you get your info? I don't need to prove shit to you, internet commando. I have three, they are all crooked. Then send them in for warranty work and stop crying about them. Im not acting like a commando at all. Im asking you to back up your post and you cant. If you are unwilling to get them fixed then you have nothing to complain about. Look tough guy, I will sell them if I want to, I will buy an AR and join ARF.com and snob it up if I want to, I will send them in for warranty when I want to, i will complain about quality issues if I want to I don't need your guidance or permission, nor do I need to prove anything to you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 lol. nothing more to see. He obviously only came here to cry and make claims he cant pay up on. The show is over...Well until he cries about his canted rail again that he hasnt tried to get fixed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Just when it was getting interesting! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Ak-47 49 Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 "Here is what my rail looks like after 20 Nobel Sport Law enforcement OO buckshot 2 3/4 The electronic red dot is a Vortex Strike Fire w/ supplied mount. Very not happy right now." Direct qoute from OP of other thread on what happenend, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ec4321 113 Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 "Here is what my rail looks like after 20 Nobel Sport Law enforcement OO buckshot 2 3/4 The electronic red dot is a Vortex Strike Fire w/ supplied mount. Very not happy right now." Direct qoute from OP of other thread on what happenend, Be interesting to hear more detail. From that, it sounds like the OP is saying it happened from normal firing/operation. If others start cracking too, this could be a huge issue. I hope PapaZ sees this and lets us know if he has seen any such issues on the veprs in Russia. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 "Here is what my rail looks like after 20 Nobel Sport Law enforcement OO buckshot 2 3/4 The electronic red dot is a Vortex Strike Fire w/ supplied mount. Not very happy right now." Direct qoute from OP of other thread on what happenend, Let him know I fixed it for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Ak-47 49 Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 "Here is what my rail looks like after 20 Nobel Sport Law enforcement OO buckshot 2 3/4 The electronic red dot is a Vortex Strike Fire w/ supplied mount. Not very happy right now." Direct qoute from OP of other thread on what happenend, Let him know I fixed it for him. Did he send it to you for repair? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) "Here is what my rail looks like after 20 Nobel Sport Law enforcement OO buckshot 2 3/4 The electronic red dot is a Vortex Strike Fire w/ supplied mount. Not very happy right now." Direct qoute from OP of other thread on what happenend, Let him know I fixed it for him. Did he send it to you for repair? Yes, via the interwebs. Edited November 13, 2012 by Chevyman097 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
africamagical 5 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Not all cracked yet, but all three I have are crooked. It's hard to have faith in the quality and therefore assume the cracked rails is an isolated incident given all the issues we've seen in the small sample of units. Sure, when a rail becomes available I can replace the factory ones with a quality part - but that costs more money and I already bought a rail. Maybe its time to sell me all your veprs for half price and go buy and AR. ARFcom needs more snobs. snobs? I can build an ar for half the cost of a vepr, looking for un cracked rails doesn't strike me as snobery id love to that that 500 dollar shit AR so I can laugh at it. laugh away It's not like I don't have both or any other russian or western gun to compare and contrast Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Better close that zipper it might get dirty inside. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
africamagical 5 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Better close that zipper it might get dirty inside. not sure what your problem is, I had to assume he meant see the ar, unless he meant something else entirely...... id love to that that 500 dollar shit AR so I can laugh at it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Better close that zipper it might get dirty inside. not sure what your problem is, I had to assume he meant see the ar, unless he meant something else entirely...... id love to that that 500 dollar shit AR so I can laugh at it. \ I dont see the confusion. You posted, Im laughing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PapaZorro 401 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 (edited) "Here is what my rail looks like after 20 Nobel Sport Law enforcement OO buckshot 2 3/4 The electronic red dot is a Vortex Strike Fire w/ supplied mount. Very not happy right now." Direct qoute from OP of other thread on what happenend, Be interesting to hear more detail. From that, it sounds like the OP is saying it happened from normal firing/operation. If others start cracking too, this could be a huge issue. I hope PapaZ sees this and lets us know if he has seen any such issues on the veprs in Russia. There was some such issues on Russians Veprs also - most cases due to fixed Optics too tight to the rail as well optics was too heavy. Also there was one or several issues with Molot steel rails (placed in early production) - for some Russian guys steel is not strong enough (I don't understand how it's possible, but some smart Vepr users know). Fixing optics like this (the begin of the rail) on Vepr-12/Saiga-12-30 sometimes also case of malfunctions . The following video describe why. Edited November 15, 2012 by PapaZorro 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ec4321 113 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Thanks PapaZ. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thor's Hammer 33 Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 (edited) My guess is the Strikefire is too massive when combined with too small of a mounting footprint for the polymer/steel rail to handle the recoil. Looks like the cantilever of the mounting allows a torque stress riser that dis-bonded the polymer from its steel base. Imagine how much of a snap the recoil places on the rear of the optic with a 12GA. I don't reckon that would happen with a T1. An EOTech XPS might be okay as well. Edited November 18, 2012 by Thor's Hammer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
S12KS-K 40 Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 I thought that the Molot was supposed to be better than the 030? The 030 rails are machined out of a solid block of steel... no plastic.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 here we go again. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 Round 2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motopilot1 37 Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supertex 242 Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.