Bought a new ak47 and the dealer wont give it up

[chicagosfinest 26]

No he had itt the detective made him produce it after i was telling him how he told me he never recieved it , even though i had a traking number and some one at his shop signed for it.

[ARCHANGEL 104]

Did he verify it against the serial number of the weapon shipped from KVAR? You said he sells the same type rifle in his store.

[chicagosfinest 26]

no arsenal ak's, but other brands, wasr's and some half ass saiga's

 

but no i did not , im sure Kvar will when they get it back

[RobRez 1,896]

Wow, just fuckin "Wow!" Speechless.

Good going on exposing this person!

[poolingmyignorance 2,191]

What kind of idiot risks his livelihood and freedom over a few hundred bucks, after going though all the trouble to get an ffl?

Stupidity truly has no limits.

[Fallschirmjager667 729]

sounds like kvar has pretty good customer service

[thebuns1 4,323]

sounds like kvar has pretty good customer service

 

I never had any trouble with them. Its good to see them helping someone who could use it.

[chicagosfinest 26]

Yes many thanks to Kvar they have been awsome and very helpful i would recomend them to anyone

[Missile Shooter 41]

Actually he is not in the wrong on the NICS check. It can be run as soon as purchase verification is received. In other words as soon as money changes hands and the weapon is paid for. Per our ATF agent you can run the NICS check and start the 3 day wait if required as usually the wait is state sponsored and not ATF sponsored so they really don't care. NICS check is good for up to 30 days for a weapon and you have to sign the 4473 twice. Once when requesting the check and there is a second signature block to take possession of the firearm.

[MT Predator 2,294]

So why is the FFL sending it back if you had a Dectective in tow? You should have been walking out of the store with it if you are legal to have it in your city. Something still seems jacked up with this story.

[Bigchris 31]

I was wondering the same thing....

[chevyman097 2,579]

So why is the FFL sending it back if you had a Dectective in tow? You should have been walking out of the store with it if you are legal to have it in your city. Something still seems jacked up with this story.

 

It is not legal to have in cook county.

[jbanzai 113]

is it April 1rst?

[chicagosfinest 26]

yes it is all the shops sell them here and ive bought then in cook county before , and i dont see any gun shops getting shut down, also the owner said he refuses to do the transfer as a buisness owner he has the right to. im just glad that i am getting my rifle finally

Edited November 22, 2012 by chicagosfinest

[chevyman097 2,579]

yes it is all the shops sell them here and ive bought then in cook county before , and i dont see any gun shops getting shut down, also the owner said he refuses to do the transfer as a buisness owner he has the right to. im just glad that i am getting my rifle finally

 

Speeding is illegal and people do it every day, only some get caught...

[chicagosfinest 26]

every shop in cook county sells them i can think of at least 4 off hand, and they have been around for like 10 plus years . Dont u think if they were so illeagal they would close the shops, it not like they are a secret and u need a pasword to get in

 

Now if you have them in city limits. chicago PD will bust you, other than that no one bats an eye, shit i have to register all my guns with my town police department and they dont say any thing and i have 2 ak47's, ar15, ar10, a galil and a mac11, all registered in cook county and never had a problem so explain that and countless handguns

Edited November 22, 2012 by chicagosfinest

[chevyman097 2,579]

If everyone started jumping off a cliff, that doesnt mean I would follow suit. Sorry. Im not the jumping type.

[chicagosfinest 26]

that makes no sense what so ever, it is a law that is ony inforced by the city of chicago, no other goverment entity gives to shit and the director or the state police publicly said they would not inforce the law

 

is your avatar directed towards yourself

[chevyman097 2,579]

that makes no sense what so ever, it is a law that is ony inforced by the city of chicago, no other goverment entity gives to shit and the director or the state police publicly said they would not inforce the law

 

is your avatar directed towards yourself

 

Funny, you telling me what makes sense. Yet you couldnt construct a logical sentence using the English language if it slapped you in the damn face.

 

Public school?

[ChileRelleno 7,074]

Chicago,

fair warning, ever hear about wrestling with pigs in the mud?

You end up muddy and the pig likes it.

 

Chicago meet Chevy.

 

No offense Chevy, but he knows not with whom he butts heads.

Edited November 22, 2012 by ChileRelleno

[chicagosfinest 26]

Not my first language buddy

[chevyman097 2,579]

Chicago,

fair warning, ever hear about wrestling with pigs in the mud?

You end up muddy and the pig likes it.

 

Chicago meet Chevy.

 

No offense Chevy, but he knows not with whom he butts heads.

 

Fair enough.

[chicagosfinest 26]

When two trains meet each other at a railroad crossing, each shall come to a full stop, and neither shall proceed until the other has gone. every hear of that chevy thats a law in texas and i dont see any one inforcing that, stupid laws dont get inforced same thing with ban on assualt rifles becouse its not its a rifle just like any other semi auto one

 

how about a Austin law of Wire cutters can not be carried in your pocket. O shit arrest every electriction in the town

[chicagosfinest 26]

there lots of laws and there not inforced becouse they are unjust , a town a county a state, and federal gov can all have laws dosent mean any one of them are gunna follow each others

[liberty -r- death 1,445]

Glad you got it worked out. I still say Fuck Chicago, and it current & past mayors. They have help screw over the Second Ammendment more than Clinton. Oh yeah, Fuck him too.

[MT Predator 2,294]

So I am still wondering why the FFL did an early call to NCIS knowing this weapon was inbound, then turns around and says it's his right not to transfer it to you? He must of had plans for your rifle not involving you. I hope the fucktard gets burned.

[DogMan 2,343]

yes it is all the shops sell them here and ive bought then in cook county before , and i dont see any gun shops getting shut down, also the owner said he refuses to do the transfer as a buisness owner he has the right to. im just glad that i am getting my rifle finally

The difference between something being legal as opposed to being "not enforced" is that the FFL still has the law on his side and the detective cannot force him to break it. I still think there is something missing here that explains this guy's unwillingness to go through with this.

[rnemhrd 165]

Not my first language buddy

My guess is the shop owner tried to take advantage of this. He KNEW that the gun being shipped to his shop was. Legal or not. He should have refused at that point. If the shop owner KNEW the gun DID NOT belong in the county WHY did he let the transfer go ahead and take the cash for it? He should loose his FFL. Are there any FFLs out there that do transfers and not know that the hell they are getting??? Never done one so I realy have no clue. Edited November 22, 2012 by rnemhrd

[jbanzai 113]

[Bvamp 604]

have we established what configuration it was in, and if the buyer resides in cook county?

 

you can do the paperwork to transfer weapons, but cannot mark them out of your books, and only have XX hours to do so, upon paperwork.

 

 

I agree with above, we are not given all relevant information. the gun so far has been described as an "ak47" so far as i can tell, and nothing more. ceratin configurations are not legal in that BEAUTIFUL state, and residents of cook county (NOT buyers in cook county, but RESIDENTS OF) cannot have ak pattern in most forms

 

single post in this thread, good luck. hope it works out.

 

if i got a proceed on any firearms, the transaction is finished, and i would be bringing the sherriff to seize my property. if its a folder or prohibited, then id deal with it, if i were that out of synch with my local laws.

 

what confiugration is the firearm? anyone ask that yet, and i just missed it?

 

you cant write the gun out of your books, if the transfer goes through, and then not give the person it. otherwise, you wouldnt have all these NFA guys filing for serial #'s ahead of time for the overpriced toys we all must have.

 

once the transfer goes through, they cannot do shit with it, and technically, you can sieze it. unless it is illegally configured.

 

ive had people in california that should know better try to pull that crap on me at work.

 

its a fine line, but i dont think we have all of the facts, not to diss noone.

 

on the other side, if you ordered something like a folding stock in the county, then yes, the FFL SHOULDNT hand it ovetr to you, as it is illegal in your area. HOWEVER they shouldnt have done the NICS check, and as such, it is YOUR property that you cannot take possession of legally, and has to be sold/sent someplace else.

Edited November 22, 2012 by Ben Vampatella