Right side charging handle ?

[toothandnail 275]

If you are a left handed shooter , DO you NEED a right side charging handle on the forend?

 

I'm not left handed , I've tried but , I can't understand the need for a right side handle other than the one on the bolt.

 

Somebody explain why please, help me understand.

 

We will offer both , no need to exclude part of the market if they want it.

It's simple to do.

 

A left side makes perfect sense to me , just can't wrap my head around a right side.

[Armand Willis 4]

Basically...With a charge handle on the handguard the shooter doesn't need to remove his/hers stong hand from the grip, or firing group etc.. area to rack the bolt.

Edited November 28, 2012 by The Shop Monkey

[snwbrdrcr 17]

By putting a forward charging handle on the right side of the gun you increase the chance of getting hit in the face / body / arm by a shell when trying to clear a malfunction etc. Since the gun already has a handle on the bolt a secondary on that side seems redundant. Just my .02

[Armand Willis 4]

By putting a forward charging handle on the right side of the gun you increase the chance of getting hit in the face / body / arm by a shell when trying to clear a malfunction etc. Since the gun already has a handle on the bolt a secondary on that side seems redundant. Just my .02

 

How does a lefty normally avoid being faced by a spent shell?

[toothandnail 275]

By putting a forward charging handle on the right side of the gun you increase the chance of getting hit in the face / body / arm by a shell when trying to clear a malfunction etc. Since the gun already has a handle on the bolt a secondary on that side seems redundant. Just my .02

By putting a forward charging handle on the right side of the gun you increase the chance of getting hit in the face / body / arm by a shell when trying to clear a malfunction etc. Since the gun already has a handle on the bolt a secondary on that side seems redundant. Just my .02

 

That's about where I'm at. But I'm not a lefty , so that's why I'm askin.

[kampr 4]

From a 3-gunner’s perspective, the appeal is having your weak hand able to instantly manipulate the bolt without losing your shooting position. In a game where tenths count, I want to maintain a cheek weld and keep my weak hand on or near the forend,

[toothandnail 275]

From a 3-gunner’s perspective, the appeal is having your weak hand able to instantly manipulate the bolt without losing your shooting position. In a game where tenths count, I want to maintain a cheek weld and keep my weak hand on or near the forend,

From a 3-gunner’s perspective, the appeal is having your weak hand able to instantly manipulate the bolt without losing your shooting position. In a game where tenths count, I want to maintain a cheek weld and keep my weak hand on or near the forend,

 

I agree 100% for RH shooter , having a little trouble seeing much of an advantage for a LH .

 

I guess the main one is keeping your hand nearer the gripping position. I grip with my weak hand on the mag well ( magwell grip on my AR) close to the same on my MKA.

[snwbrdrcr 17]

 

How does a lefty normally avoid being faced by a spent shell?

 

Arm position shifts as you reach up across to pull the forward charging handle potentially right in front of the ejection port.

I can certainly appreciate the faster concept for 3 gun, but one might also be affecting the ability to clear the malfunction.

I'm also not saying that Tooth & Nail shouldn't include the option, just that it may be redundant.

[KIRCH76 12]

will this be some sort of add on for those of us that bought the t&n forearm or will it need to be a whole new forearm

[toothandnail 275]

Unfortunatly it will require a new forend , we will offer some kind of trade in/buy back program.

[snwbrdrcr 17]

Tooth, what kind of timeline are we talking? I'm in the market for one.

[KIRCH76 12]

is it going to be completely different. or is there just going to be a slot cut in the side for the foward charging handle? if there is a way we can self modify the org. forend would yku sell the charging handle parts seperate?

[toothandnail 275]

Here's a pic of the test version, very basic , no rails no finish , STRICTLY for testing.

The charging handle parts were all hand made , got the finished one drawn ,+ something else to go with it? ? , it's gonna be sweet.

 

Got some changes to make it better/faster to make, forend will look pretty much as the pic, major changes to the charging handle.

[KIRCH76 12]

so it appears that mine can be cut for the charging handle then? my buddy is a cnc machinist so I imagine he can cut the slot and then just install the hardware correct?

[fritzthemoose 3]

would be interesting for me too if we could mod the original one ourselfs

[Armand Willis 4]

I gotta say, that's a nice looking part...because it looks a lot like the original one. Hmmm....

[compshootfl 40]

And your point is....?

 

 

If they were more readily available we wouldn't even be talking about this...it would just be a matter of choice between products.

Edited November 29, 2012 by compshootfl

[toothandnail 275]

OH NO , it's the angled slots debate .

 

again

There are only so many ways to make a replacement part for the same item, every replacement grip is basically the same, every trigger spring, IF the 1919 alum lower ever comes out , it will be the same design etc. etc..

 

There are certain parameters one has to work with when making replacement parts, MOST will look the same.

 

The main reason we got started in this business was LACK of AVAILABLE parts, it's easy to make a CAD drawing of an item , or make a few ,and say it's for sale.

It's another to meet the demand of the consumer, which is what we are trying to do, and why there will be more stuff coming SOON.

I come from a business model where you deliver in a matter of hours to a day(local no shipping involved). Not maybe in two weeks or 3 months , which ever I feel like.

[Armand Willis 4]

And your point is....?

 

 

If they were more readily available we wouldn't even be talking about this...it would just be a matter of choice between products.

 

I made my point.

[FoxHound 3]

And your point is....?

 

 

If they were more readily available we wouldn't even be talking about this...it would just be a matter of choice between products.

 

I made my point.

 

I somewhat agree. This is a little different than the angled slots issue, which I actually was on your side ToothandNail on that issue.

But this issue (charging handle) is actually basing off someone else's original idea and work, which is a slippery slope my friend. Tread carefully

Edited November 30, 2012 by FoxHound

[Montana3gunner 13]

It also helps to have a side charging handle on the left so that you can pull the bolt back with your left, and clear malfunctions/FTEs with your right, without pulling the gun off your shoulder or rolling it over. Faster for 3 gunners.

 

I find it useful to have both for 3 gun.

[S12KS-K 40]

If you are a left handed shooter , DO you NEED a right side charging handle on the forend?

 

I think a stock AK is made for lefties. I'm a lefty. The system works perfect for me. I can do anything on the AK platform as fast as any righty on an AR platform.

 

 

How does a lefty normally avoid being faced by a spent shell?

 

In my experience, It simply doesn't happen with the AK platform. The shells either eject 45 or 90 degrees out. I've never had a problem.

Edited November 30, 2012 by S12KS-K

[Haycock 9]

It also helps to have a side charging handle on the left so that you can pull the bolt back with your left, and clear malfunctions/FTEs with your right, without pulling the gun off your shoulder or rolling it over. Faster for 3 gunners.

 

I find it useful to have both for 3 gun.

 

Im pretty sure he is already planning on doing a left side handle becouse there is no question if that is better. but hes asking about the right side because there is already one on the right.

 

If i was a lefty i would think i would be able to clear a malfunction faster if there was a handle on the hand gaurd. your "suppose to" hold your gun on the hand gaurd for more control, so your hand would pretty much be on the charging handle. now for all the magwell holders, i dont want to get in a debate on where to hold your gun, thats just what they teach you...

Edited December 1, 2012 by Haycock

[Embermage 1]

Curious, does the charging handle count towards 922©?

[ispayboy 3]

The handguard or forend(as some prefers to call it) ,counts as a 922r parts comp. , since the charging handle is part of the handguard, common sense dictates, it is just a part of a known parts listed in the 922r. But if youre referring for the charging handle as a stand alone 922 part comp... I don't think so, but then again I might be wrong and other gurus in this board can chime in with their wisdom.

[Embermage 1]

Wouldn't the charging handle count as the "operating rod" (cocking handle)?

[AR-12 Shotgun 16]

I gotta say, that's a nice looking part...because it looks a lot like the original one. Hmmm....

 

I'm just gonna throw this out there, since there is some confusion on the term "original".

 

Many bullpups have the exact same design. No one has invented anything new here. So I would agree...it's angled slots all over again.

 

MP5, FS2000, etc.

[compshootfl 40]

The same ...But different... Available for sale...Not available...The end result...More choices for everyone...Priceless.

 

 

Only the hungry survive.

[Haycock 9]

so whats the word on these things Tooth and nail? price? availability? if its soon and a decent price i might have to cancel a order ive been waiting about 2 months too long for....

[toothandnail 275]

We are planning on Jan. 15 availability , price $225.00 max, full length top rail, all our other rail options will fit as well. it will come with a new drive block . that's what we're testing now.