bernerz 11 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Walking around at the gunshow in Reno, saw one unmodified s-12 going for $995.00. As soon as I saw the price I started giggling, had to walk away. My brother looked at me and said, "Didn't you pay like $250 or something for yours?" Those folks at the gunshow are just blatantly trying to soak the panic-buyers for every penny they can. Kinda just disgusted with the whole thing. I didn't see any kind of real deals and no one wanted to bargain. Don't think I'll ever go to another one. I wonder if other gun show goers ended with similar intent? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mxwelch 15 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 I went to one today in Virginia and saw some of it. Some 12s were $850 while others were $700. Looking at everything I'd say it's about 50/50 as far as weapons go. Ammo was a different story as all of it was ridiculous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bernerz 11 Posted December 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Apparently there were three or four guys that camped out the night before the show opened and bought something like $75,000 worth of 5.55/.223 ammunition as soon as they opened. Pretty wild. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmzzl 146 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 I've been to one gunshow in my life, and it was horrible. Same story. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Star Arms 2,047 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Firearms dealers are not in the public service business. When supplies contract, their costs increase. When their costs increase, they have to charge more, or they are out of business and your access to firearms is further restricted, and costs and prices will continue to increase. Supply and demand determines the price/cost of goods and services, and firearms are no exception. If you don't want to pay more for firearms, stop wasting your time griping on this forum, and write your legislators. Now. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Mike is right, so what the dealer paid 300 for a firearm, the next one will cost Him 600, He has to cover His cost. That is what is so wrong about buying like this, we did it to our self's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bernerz 11 Posted December 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Less of a gripe, more of an observation on human nature and perceived supply/demand. As for contacting my local politician, already done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jbanzai 113 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) supply and demand is NOT an ethical issue Edited December 23, 2012 by jbanzai 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 There are ALWAYS deals at gun shows if you know what you are looking at. People have the wrong attitude at gun shows, they go there looking for something specific and when they don't find the deal of a lifetime on their specific item they are pissed. Go with an open mind. For example, maybe you are hoping to find a Saig 12 but they are all over priced, maybe there is a great deal on an M44 or some specialty ammo. Last gun show I was at, I almost missed it but bought a factory S12 mag for $12. I am always glad to hear people saying they are not going to gun shows, it is more likely for me to get the deal. Another great source of deals are the "non-dealer" tables or they other people walking through the show. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 supply and demand is NOT and ethical issue AMEN BROTHER! And Hallelujah! How many times do we have to see this same "gouging" whine? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Hog, I have found LEO mags for Glocks at half price at the non-dealer tables. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Hog, I have found LEO mags for Glocks at half price at the non-dealer tables. I picked up 2 10rd factory Glock 9mm mags for $10! I don't even have a glock 9mm yet. But these are the types of deals I am referring too. There is always a great deal on something if you know gun stuff! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socom688 217 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 I haven't been to one in a few months, and will probably never go again. I've been to the one in central Florida at the Central Florida Fairgrounds, everything was way over priced, and few people wanted to bargain just like your experience. I found a guy selling some generic steel surplus Romanian mags in typical condition, he wanted no less than $25 a piece. I told him I would buy 6 for 75 bucks, he laughed and said "yeah if we were in the 90's, maybe". I held my breath even though I wanted to school his old decaying ass on what they really cost at the time (this was 6 months ago BEFORE all this bullshit gun ban talk). Same kinda story up in Jacksonville too... I've posted before a while back about this kinda crap. Gun shows are now a joke, just an attraction for anyone curious about guns it seems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Long Shot 1,287 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 One could surmise we are seeing one more example of an over reaching government fucking up the free market. One little three letter word $$$$$$BAN$$$$$ Imagine what how it will be when a bigger event takes place. Marshal law anyone? If you haven't seen this coming and done some preparing maybe it's time to wake up. when it comes ( whatever "it" is) there probably won't be much more warning. Just sayin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
busarider 23 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 K-var still have factory pistol grip S12 for $899 last I checked. I think these guys at the shows are paying retail and think they are going to find that sucker that does not shop around to stick it to. I just ordered a glock 23 online with free shipping. I have seen sites with the same model for less but when you ad shipping and FFL charges its anywhere from $35+ more. I have yet to see a deal at a gun show even from the dealers. You have to take into account your admission fee and sometimes parking. When I went to the Phx show this year parking was like $9 and entry was like $16. Hell, I was $25 in the hole when I started shopping. Long story short the only thing I have ever found a deal on was ammo and magazines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Minkman 24 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Shooters Jacksonville (on wed.) was selling a CIA converted Saiga for $1500 ... (they were charging 3k for an M&P Sport , ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socom688 217 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Shooters Jacksonville (on wed.) was selling a CIA converted Saiga for $1500 ... (they were charging 3k for an M&P Sport , ) I used Shooters for my FFL when I bought my S12. One of the newbie employees there stopped me and tried to run my newly received S12's serial number in their data base to see if I was stealing it as I was walking out with it. He didn't see my pick it up from the licensee in the back. I told him that they don't even sell S12's and a more seasoned employee saw what was happening and came over to tell the new guy to back off and that I could leave. In addition, another employee a week earlier when I went in to originally set up the transfer told me that he converting the gun and "modifying" the receiver at all is illegal. I have never been back and wont go back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 , so what the dealer paid 300 for a firearm, the next one will cost Him 600, He has to cover His cost. Yep...Either people will need more to buy the next one... Or they'll need a couple extra bucks to get them by until they figure out WTF they're gonna do for a living now that their business was shut down by the great one, depending how everything goes. The second Pops called and told me to avoid I-205 because there was a shooter at the mall & the freeway was backed up for miles, I began to make sure I had a backup plan that would allow me to live with a severe reduction in business while still staying in the game. I've seen several builders selling off parts of their personal collections lately, and I can only guess it's out of fear that they may have to weather a storm pretty soon. You can't get pissed at a guy who sleeps on a guillotine for trying to protect their necks when the trigger rope starts to tense. Several brick & mortar shops around here are looking at seeing their doors close. Ironically enough, the biggest price gouger in the entire state of Oregon (as some would say) Warren, of The Gun Room, is one of the only that doesn't have much to worry about because primarily he rapes people with inflated prices on over/unders, but has the best selection around... Not just talkin' shit... Dude trys to tell people his Remmy 870's are $200.00 more than everybody else because they're made special for him. lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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