mman 0 Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 This appears to be a fore grip with integrated iron sights and rail. This is EXACTLY how I envisioned setting up mine with an eotech and having back up sights. I son't think I will like the typical side rail mount. It seems to sit a bit high. I PM'd the poster, but he only had 3 total posts and his last post was in 2008 so I am not expecting a return. Does anyone know who makes this? Where to get it? Thanks in advance! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bridis 319 Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) That is a forend with integral iron sights. That looks like a Halo quad rail. I don't think they make them anymore. But sometimes they pop up on gun broker listed for $350 to $450. They are supposedly pretty heavy too. I suggest you look into the Chaos rail systems. They are cheaper, lighter and have more options. Edited January 6, 2013 by Bridis 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DNR 20 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 hey check this one out - http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/83524-chaos-titan-quad-rail/ I think if you look around, there are so many rail variations to choose from, short to long rails, round, square, co-witness, etc 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mman 0 Posted January 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 I like the Chaos. I will keep that in mind. I have also been intrigued by this UTG: http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Saiga-12-Tactical-Quad-System/dp/B002TUSRMC/ref=wl_mb_hu_m_21_dp Except is states "Designed with See-through Feature for Use of Iron Sights." That leads me to believe that the rail sits up above the stock iron sights. I like where the current cheek weld is and if I am going to mount the eotech, I would like it to be as low as possible. This one had me interested as well: http://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Picatinny-Rail-Saiga-Rifle/dp/B002E6UWKQ/ref=sr_1_113?ie=UTF8&qid=1357532438&sr=8-113&keywords=saiga CSS makes a short rail that fits in the rear dovetail of the stock sight. That might do the trick, but I also want iron sight backups. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rnemhrd 165 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 hey check this one out - http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/83524-chaos-titan-quad-rail/ I think if you look around, there are so many rail variations to choose from, short to long rails, round, square, co-witness, etc Here is some chaos rail porn for ya. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/44199-show-me-your-chaos-mounted-rails/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mman 0 Posted January 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 DROOOL!!!! I think I really like the hinged rail... I would go with that, the Chaos Sights and muzzle break.... Time to save the dineros. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swimbikerun247 1 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 If you like the UTG Pro Quad Rail ... Make an offer, I have one lying around that I'd like to sell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
misterT 174 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 (edited) I did na internet search and found this, no picture but it sounds like it could be it. http://www.halomfg.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=28&category=5 That does look good almost makes me want a rail! O.K. you can see the picture from this menu under rail systems http://www.halomfg.com/ Edited January 7, 2013 by misterT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rnemhrd 165 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I did na internet search and found this, no picture but it sounds like it could be it.http://www.halomfg.com/Details.cfm?ProdID=28&category=5 That does look good almost makes me want a rail! O.K. you can see the picture from this menu under rail systems http://www.halomfg.com/ Cast aluminium. One good drop and part of the sight breaks off and then what? $300.00. http://www.chaosus.com/cgi/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=QUAD_SIGHTS No compairison in my book. If you doe'nt like the HK sights there are so many flip ups to choose from it's crazy. Plus Chaos is a buisness member busting his butt to help keep this place up and running. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 It's an old heavy halo rail. They show up sometimes in WTS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
misterT 174 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I did say "almost makes me want a rail!" actually I do not like rail systems, I do not need a flashlight and a laser, and a bipod and a vertical grip, iron sights and red dot sight etc. I was just trying to help the guy but I do agree on the Chaos rail with the hinged rear part and HK style sights. That would be the one if I ever went that route, I just dont like the whole weapon covered with rails. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
montec 164 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I got the UTG pro here from another member and its not that much higher over the factory sights maybe a 1/2" and I use a red dot on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mman 0 Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) I actually think I am going to go a different route.... I like the Chaos extended quad to mount the Eotech, and then I will use 45* off-set flip up iron sights for a backup. Magpul AFG2 underneath. Edited January 9, 2013 by mman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Molotov Cocktail 9 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 That aint a foregrip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mman 0 Posted January 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 That aint a foregrip. What is it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
avnate 335 Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 That aint a foregrip. What is it? A boat anchor with rails that mounts to a S12. The Chaos rails are far superior. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mman 0 Posted January 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 That aint a foregrip. What is it? A boat anchor with rails that mounts to a S12. The Chaos rails are far superior. I actually think I am going to go a different route.... I like the Chaos extended quad to mount the Eotech, and then I will use 45* off-set flip up iron sights for a backup. Magpul AFG2 underneath. Yea, I came to that conclusion as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
misterT 174 Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 I just received my Magpul AFG 2 and really do like it! It makes the reach around my new MD20 drum much better, I did find that I needed to mount it all the way forward on my forearm though. I tried it further back and the drum was still in the way, it is just enough in the forward position for a good hold. If you are going with a full rail anyway and plan on getting an MD20 drum a good aluminum vertical grip might be just a little bit better. These drums are just really BIG and reaching around them is a PITA, I hesitated to even buy one because I expected this but with all the panic I found a good deal and bought it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mman 0 Posted January 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 I really like it too. I bought it "used" (it was barley used... pulled off a trade-in gun) and I tossed it on my AR. I liked it so much that I ditched the combination vertical grip/laser beam... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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