themike 0 Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Hey all, I just purchased an Izhmash Saiga 12 along with a Chaos Titan Quad Rail. To install the rail, I had to remove the rear sight. In doing so I was an idiot and got a little rough with the gas tube and broke the two ears that hold the tube in position in the receiver. The metal looks like it is cast iron, so I can't find anyone who can weld on it. Long story short, I need a new gas tube (Part 4 on the attached image) and have spent the last three hours searching Google for somewhere I can purchase one with no luck. Anyone know of where I can go? Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 I highly doubt it's cast iron - it may well be cast steel. It should be weldable without issue. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 how bad is it when you reassemble the weapon? its not a gas tube, just a shroud. ever seen one run naked? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Viper84 18 Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 I have no idea how to fix that. All I can say is that your in the right place. These guys know everything about the S12. Anyone know if Pauly would be able to help with this if mike doesnt have the resources? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 replace it with a non broken one off the equip exch? i wanna see one runnin nekkid! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
themike 0 Posted January 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 I highly doubt it's cast iron - it may well be cast steel. It should be weldable without issue. I misspoke, it is cast metal of some sort. I have tried two gunsmiths, both say that it is not weldable. Anyone know where to buy one? how bad is it when you reassemble the weapon? its not a gas tube, just a shroud. ever seen one run naked? The gas tube with the rear end piece (the part the rear sight mounts to) has about a 1/32" of slop in it when everything is assembled. Enough the weapon will not cycle about 80% of the time now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 I've never tried it, but you might want to contact the "Export Department for hunting and sporting firearms" http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/contact/ Seeing that it's just a part, they shouldn't have any customs or legal trouble shipping you a replacement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 check with dinzag arms for a new one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmax4x4 68 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Can You post a pic of it? Some don't reuse the gas tube on SBS builds. And as posted above Dinzag may have one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
themike 0 Posted January 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) check with dinzag arms for a new one Can You post a pic of it? Some don't reuse the gas tube on SBS builds. And as posted above Dinzag may have one Here is a picture of my F-up... I will try Dinzag tomorrow, but I am looking for something with stock dimensions because I have the Chaos quad rail to put over it. I didn't see anything like that on their website. Edited January 14, 2013 by themike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
themike 0 Posted January 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 I've never tried it, but you might want to contact the "Export Department for hunting and sporting firearms" http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/contact/ Seeing that it's just a part, they shouldn't have any customs or legal trouble shipping you a replacement. I have an email into them. I will let you guys know if I get a response. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 I had another thought too, you might try taking the tube to a real welding shop instead of a gun smith. I've seen skilled welders do some flat out unbelievable stuff before. On a side note, I've never met a welder than didn't own guns (they might be out there, somewhere?). They'll probably be very excited to work on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DLT 1,646 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 replace it with a non broken one off the equip exch? i wanna see one runnin nekkid! I wanna see your avatar runnin nekkid! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Needs to be welded. Hard to find spare parts without buying most of a gun too. There are smiths here could fix it, you're not the first person to do this. Shoot an e-mail with the pics to Leland at Sierra Ordnance Company and see what he says, I'll bet he can set you up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
themike 0 Posted January 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 check with dinzag arms for a new one Dinzag has one on the shelf for me. Thanks guys. BTW, never received a response from my email to izhmash. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Just a heads up... It CAN be welded.I've welded on that part in the past.E-309 fuses to it great.Dinzag's likely a hell of a lot cheaper than the time it would take to rebuild then mill it though, so you lucked out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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