Trappnguns 1 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Anyone use this? Thinking about getting this for mine. While I like the Magpul and other stocks, I think this would make the gun even funner and more individualistic.... While I'm at it, anyone try hydrographic printing? You know, the water dip stuff? I'm really looking into that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 A recoil sensitive friend put one on his S-12. He had to open the ports up to get it to cycle reliably due to the stock. He absolutely loves his. Looks a little funny to me, but it solved his problem and that's the biggest thing to him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 I bought and returned the GL stock, it seemed flimsy to me -- the buffer tube was totally plastic. Did not seem tough enuf (my impression only, have not read of any failures). On the hydrographic printing, I know you can buy DIY kits but the chances of getting things perfect are hard and it costs a pretty penny to have things sent out and done -- but that's just me; the penny pincher... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trappnguns 1 Posted January 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 I'm a bit of a penny pincher myself... Thats why I was looking at DIY.. As far as the stock, It's not so much the recoil, but it claims it reduces muzzle rise, that equals more shots on target faster. The one I was looking at is different than the S12 version. The spring is in the buttstock itself not the buffer tube like the saiga versions. Kinda like a knoxx/blackhawk deal.. You actually use your aluminium commercial or milspec buffer tube with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anubis 38 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 There's a company near us that charges us about $150 to have a complete gun done in hydrographic film. Mine is done in snow camo, it contrasts nicely with black accessories. I'm sure if you hunt around your area you can find a company that does this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 I went with the enidine shot shock for the wife's shotty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trappnguns 1 Posted January 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 There's a company near us that charges us about $150 to have a complete gun done in hydrographic film. Mine is done in snow camo, it contrasts nicely with black accessories. I'm sure if you hunt around your area you can find a company that does this. Not on an island in Alaska... If I have someone else do it, it gets mailed off... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anubis 38 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Ah yeah I can see that. The price of living somewhere awesome I guess? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Haycock 9 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 I went with the enidine shot shock for the wife's shotty. I was looking into a enidine buffer tube but i heard a few people with S12's that had a enidine tube were having cycling issues. so i was hoping someone else would be the guinea pig and put one on a mka then give us a review... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flatland Shooter 22 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 I went with the enidine shot shock for the wife's shotty. I was looking into a enidine buffer tube but i heard a few people with S12's that had a enidine tube were having cycling issues. so i was hoping someone else would be the guinea pig and put one on a mka then give us a review... My thoughts exactly. I'm concerned that a MKA 1919 and Enidine Buffer combination would require hotter loads to cycle reliably. If so, that would negate any benefit. So If someone has or had one on a MKA 1919, please share your experience. Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Venomous 1 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Here is a video I saw on Youtube with that stock in action. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BellaCorse 4 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 I like that B.A.D. lever. Aftermarket manufacturers please take note. /M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 You Pussy!!!! Sorry, just couldn't help myself -- mea culpa! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 I'm partial to Limbsaver myself. No problem shooting 300 rounds in several hours with one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Haycock 9 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 I'm partial to Limbsaver myself. No problem shooting 300 rounds in several hours with one. Do you know wich model/size will fit on a magpul str? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Redhunter2486 22 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 I have the enidine tube on mine, runs good, to be honest theres no recoil reduced for light loads so it doesnt affect their cycling, but mine will run the featherlite winchesters with the bushing from tromix. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cad_man 4 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 After viewing the Endine thread on the Saiga forum, I cancelled my order for the Endine tube. For me, the fit is unacceptable, but then I machine parts with tolerances of +/-.0001 so this would bug me to no end. I found a Mako GL Shock (stock only) in flat dark earth, and based on user reviews on other forums I ordered that. I probably don't really need it, but if my wife shoots my MKA I don't want her to be scared of shooting it and maybe even want one of her own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trappnguns 1 Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Let me know how that works out... I just cut the stock and am waiting on the adapter.That and more money... You gonna be using a commercial or milspec tube? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cad_man 4 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Milspec. I'm planning on using the Vltor tube if I can find one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PYRO 44 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 I like that B.A.D. lever. Aftermarket manufacturers please take note. /M I have an AR BAD on one of my MKA, not difficult to make fit,,,just bend it a little. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Venomous 1 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Milspec. I'm planning on using the Vltor tube if I can find one. I have the Mako GL Shock on an AK. I had a Milspec tube and it was loose. Got a commercial tube and it fits nice and snug with no rattles. The GL is listed for use with both tubes, but obviously it has to be larger in diameter than a Milspec tube to work on a Commercial tube. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cad_man 4 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Interesting. Here's one of the threads I found regarding fit: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_19/524188_Mako_GL_Shock___Does_it_Fit__.html Seems some manufacturers don't stick to specs. Vltor appears gtg according to Mako, but I'll find out once I actually get my hands on both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Venomous 1 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Interesting. Here's one of the threads I found regarding fit: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_19/524188_Mako_GL_Shock___Does_it_Fit__.html Seems some manufacturers don't stick to specs. Vltor appears gtg according to Mako, but I'll find out once I actually get my hands on both. Funny, I just read it and it says DPMS Milspec tubes are a perfect fit. It was a DPMS Milspec that fit loose for me. I bought a Tapco Intrafuse Commercial Tube, which is a nicely made tube and it fits that perfectly. Adjusts like butter. I love the stock , but as mentioned it is really heavy.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pizzim 0 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Silly question ... why not just fill a buffer tube with lead or concrete to add weight. heck even sand would work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flatland Shooter 22 Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Silly question ... why not just fill a buffer tube with lead or concrete to add weight. heck even sand would work I've added lead to the buttstock of several sporting clays guns. In my case, the guns were plenty heavy already and it was to change the balance to make the guns a little more butt heavy. These are wooden stock Brownings. Adding weight to the MKA 1919 will help with recoil. Where you add that weight may adversely affect the balance, but that goes to personal preference. Adding weight inside an aluminum buffer tube may cause problems with the tube itself. I've never tore one up, but I just do not know how strong the threads on that tube really are. I have my MKA 1919 running reliably with Remington Gun Club 1200 fps / 1-1/8 oz loads and the recoil is not all that bad. The lighter 1145 fps / 1-1/8 oz loads will run about 80% of the time and those are very low recoil. Winchester, Federal and Estate shells have so far come up short. Add the weight for a 15 rd magazine, the gun is beginning to get a little heavier than I think most would want for 3-gun. And I'm not sure I would see much benefit from recoil reduction systems or the addition of unnecessary weight with the lighter loads. Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
congewe 14 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Might just be me but after installing the Tromix reduced power recoil spring the felt recoil seemed noticeably reduced. I'm running the Remington Gun Club shells as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trappnguns 1 Posted February 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 I was more concerned with muzzle rise. Their ads claim it reduces muzzle rise. I have read a few of the "tactical chokes" do nothing for muzzle rise. I am also thinking about a slight downward angle on the stock. The adapter should be on my doorstep by the time I get home. I have already cut my stock to .72 to give me some working room on fitment. As far as the (mako) fitment on com or milspec, my research shows that it has two tabs on the inside bottom half of the tube so it will give it friction on milspec tubes.. Still think I might get it. That and hydrodip the whole thing in Kryptek Typhon or Raid. I will probably send it out. Not looking too good on the DIY kits... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anubis 38 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 I am also thinking about a slight downward angle on the stock. A downward angle on your stock will force your recoil point substantially lower than bore center, the end result will be increased muzzle rise. The closer your stock is to bore center the flatter your muzzle rise will be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flatland Shooter 22 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 I am also thinking about a slight downward angle on the stock. A downward angle on your stock will force your recoil point substantially lower than bore center, the end result will be increased muzzle rise. The closer your stock is to bore center the flatter your muzzle rise will be. Other than it would look rather stupid, has anyone raised the angle to see how much benefit can be derived? If its helps enough, I bet the 3-gunners would jump on it, stupid be da****. Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anubis 38 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Firebird stock adapters run on bore center, there's a lot of pictures of Firebird guns throughout this forum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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