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#1 dodgeturbointerceptor

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Posted 15 November 2005 - 02:45 PM

Tony Rumore of Tromix rocks!

I need one of these! :super:

And a US gas piston for an S-12. I'd buy the shiiittt outta those. Is Tony not doing parts. I remember his e-mail back in the day about being done in the Saiga world.......



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#2 TonyRumore

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Posted 15 November 2005 - 04:03 PM

Done in the Saiga world? Hell, I'm just getting started...............

I have built a lot of other shit in the past, so I am a bit new in the Saiga market, but I am making up for it quick. Here is a run down of miscellaneous stuff that I have made in the past.

Tromix TR-15 rifles - 300ea chambered in 50AE, 475 Tremor, 440 Corbon, 458 SOCOM, 44 AutoMag, 44 Rem Mag, 17 Mach IV, 17 Rem, 17 Tactical, 20 Tactical, 204 Ruger, .223, 6x45, 6PPC, 30/221, 338x39.
Piles of uppers in the above calibers.
AK-47 2ea chambered in .458 SOCOM
Mini 14 1ea chambered in .458 SOCOM
M1 Carbine 2ea, one in 10mm Mag, one in .502 Thunder Sabre
M60 - 2ea
Beretta 12S 1ea
Sten 2ea
RPD 1ea
M16 4ea
Siamese M16, Twin Barrel
AR-15 Muzzle Loader
AK47 1ea
AK74 Krink 1ea
UZI 1ea
Tromix 50BMG rifle 1ea
Tromix design AK47 Drop in Auto Sear 3ea
Various AR DIAS.
SMB Suppressors 2ea
Valmet Rifle Magazines 2000ea

Saiga's - about 25ea 12" shorties
About 10ea Title 1 conversions
Gas pistons
Trigger Guards
Flash Hiders
Galil cocking handles
HK sight instalations
Picatinny rails
Short carrier extensions
Short gas tubes
Gas regulator extensions

..................and there will be much more to come, trust me.

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Posted 15 November 2005 - 05:23 PM

Oh good!

I was worried. :unsure:

For those that bought the dozen 12" barreled Tromix guns, they will be delivered as promised as soon as the Form 3's clear the ATF, so don't freak out. I am still here, just finishing up the last remaining orders. I've made some wild stuff over the years but it's time to move on. I'm burned out....................


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That was the last I had seen from you. I was at school since early Apr. Wasn't on the site much for the last 6 months.
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Posted 15 November 2005 - 05:32 PM

So Tony have you actually communicated with ATF about the S-12 gas piston vs carrier extension deal? I replaced the part that's called a gas piston in AKs to stay in compliance with my foreign furniture and threaded bbl. if what you said about that is true then I'm still not in compliance unless I replace one more part. How much are those "gas pistons" like the one pictured above.

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#5 TonyRumore

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 09:19 AM

No, I have not asked the ATF for a clarification on the gas piston versus the carrier extension.

It does not matter either way to me since I change enough parts to U.S. that I don't need to change one of these.

Technically speaking though, a piston is not a "GAS" piston unless it's under direct gas pressure impingment. The carrier extension see's no direct gas impingment, thus it is merely a piston, not a "gas" piston.

You can have all sorts of pistons, mechanical, hydraulic, knumatic, etc, but each see's direct impingment from some other form of energy. In the case of the Saiga, that energy is gas from the barrel.

My guess is that the ATF never disassembled the Saiga, so they were probably unaware that there was a seperate gas piston in the cylinder and just assumed the carrier extension has hit with direct gas impingment like any other AK.

Of courese the ATF could rule either way, that's why I don't rely on that particular part as one in my U.S. "count".
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Posted 16 November 2005 - 09:34 AM

Well that makes sense. Even though the rifles are different than the shotties. Well if I wanted to get one just to be sure, how much would it cost me?

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 12:51 PM

Tony, I'm interested in sighting options on the Saiga. Could you give more info on the HK work you mention above.

Do any rails on the top of the saiga?

Think it would be hard to mount a Doctor out front?

Normally I'd just PM you these questions, but others might be interested?

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 01:48 PM

On the HK site installation, there is a 1/4" wide notch cut across the back of the top cover and a bar welded in place from the bottom. The bar retains the rear site and has a 10-32 screw that holds the hub onto the bar. It is adjustable for windage by loosening the screw and sliding the hub back and forth on the bar. I shoot the sights in with a laser when they are mounted, so I really doubt you would ever need any windage adjustment anyway. The hub can also be raised and lowered for elevation, but does require and HK adjustment tool. The front sight is mounted by cutting the G3 triple tree frame in half, expanding the bottom hoop to 1.00" and then TiG welding it to the gas cylinder.

I have never played with putting a picatinny rail on the top. I have only had one customer request for that in the past.

Cobra - The gas pistons are $20 shipped.
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Posted 16 November 2005 - 01:49 PM

Tony:

I would also appreciate info on pricing for your US parts, modifications and refinishing work. Rather than send a PM... is there somewhere where this info is already posted on this board?

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 02:52 PM

All the options and pricing is on the front page of the Tromix website at www.tromix.com
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