lewie212 37 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 What would you buy if you had to pick one? An SLR106 or a Yugo M85 PAP 556 Nato Pistol? Thanks guys. https://www.k-var.com/shop/SLR106-47.html http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/yugo-m85-pap-556-nato-pistol-detail.html?Itemid=0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Couple things to think about are: MAGS: SLR you can get ((10)) mags for around $40 PAP: galil's will work if you modify bullet guide otherwise I use the same mags as the SLR which are the bulgarian ((10)) or Yugo .223 mags Muzzle Nut threads: SLR, no threads under muzzle nut, PINNED PAP, threads under nut but you need detent pin and spring to put on a booster/hider Sights: SLR: if sights are canted or bullet hits to the right or left, you can get a Gen 2 cover to help. PAP: kindof stuck with the sights you've got, if they're off, they're off. Scope rail: SLR: comes with one PAP: does not trunnions for SBR: SLR I think has sidefolder trunnion, they did at shotshow PAP: cannot attach underfolder for SBR as Serial # is in the way. Maybe attach ace folding mech/ stock or other type??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lewie212 37 Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 No threads on the SLR. That is a bummer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) PAP. HD trunnion & receiver. Rear trunnion set up for underfolder, ready to be drilled. If you NFA SBR, you can have the serial number engraved elsewhere on the receiver - you are going to have to get your trust info engraved anyway. The Yugo handguards are also larger, longer and more comfortable. The SLR106 pistol is cool, but the pressed/pinned brake sucks. This is about the only downside to it. Putting a sidefolder on it would require the trunnion be pulled, but fortunately the receiver is already angle-cut for it, and it has the proper rivet pattern. No front latch cutout though. Personally I see no point to own one unless its to SBR, but thats just me. Can't do SBR in WA state yet, so I own neither. Edited February 14, 2013 by mancat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 I'd go with the yugo. I have an m92 and like it a lot! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lewie212 37 Posted February 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 The plan is definitely to sbr at some point. My top choice is an Ak100 folder poly stock. Pushing me towards the SLR106 pistol. I just wish it had threads like the yugo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 If you can get past the non-functional flash hider, the SLR would be my choice for the folder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaKen 338 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) How about this? MIne is shipping today or Monday http://www.k-var.com/shop/SAM7K.html Edited February 15, 2013 by Saiga Power Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lewie212 37 Posted February 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I wish that was what I ordered but I only had about 900 to spend. I probably should of saved my money and bought the 7.62. Is it possible to remove pinned/pressed slr pistol and thread for a tromix shark brake? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) I wish that was what I ordered but I only had about 900 to spend. I probably should of saved my money and bought the 7.62. Is it possible to remove pinned/pressed slr pistol and thread for a tromix shark brake? Yes, and kvar also has the correct brake for it. Runs about $50 more than the shark brake. either way you'll just need to thread it 14x1 LH. Either have a builder do it or do it yourself if you're capable. AK-136B Edited February 15, 2013 by AZG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TARE 47 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I think you'd have to cut the barrel back some to get it to thread that muzzle device without it looking off with a barrel exposed in the gap. Maybe I'm mistaken, I'd love to be mistaken about that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lewie212 37 Posted February 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I don't think you are,I wish you were. I even have the 14x1 tools . I threaded my 762 saiga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lewie212 37 Posted March 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Well I went with the arsenal slr106. I now see that they are producing a version with an 8.5 inch barrel? How bad would that effect the ballistics of the 556? My main question is.... Am I a step ahead with this when planning to sbr and install an ak100 folding stock? What is the deal with the rear trunnion in this thing? I also think it would look good with a wood stock back there, but then I would need to replace the trunnion with one that has a tang? Please excuse my lack of expertise in this area. I think it would be cool to make a wood stock fold with ak100 folding hardware. Is that even possible? -DL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 The rear trunnion has to come out and get replaced with a hinged trunnion with release/latch mechanism. The receiver already has the correct slant cut for the hinged trunnion to drop in. Obviously you need to drill the holes for the release button on both sides. There are printable templates for this online. On the front, you have to drill the bottom of the receiver to install the latch pin. The trunnion should already have the hole for it. If not, drill it. You have to drill the cut for the latch on the side of the receiver. The tough part is getting the thing installed. From what I've seen, it can be a real bitch to squirm that thing in there with the trunnion in place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lewie212 37 Posted March 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Do you know a reliable place to get templates from the internet? The rear trunnion has to come out and get replaced with a hinged trunnion with release/latch mechanism. The receiver already has the correct slant cut for the hinged trunnion to drop in. Obviously you need to drill the holes for the release button on both sides. There are printable templates for this online. On the front, you have to drill the bottom of the receiver to install the latch pin. The trunnion should already have the hole for it. If not, drill it. You have to drill the cut for the latch on the side of the receiver. The tough part is getting the thing installed. From what I've seen, it can be a real bitch to squirm that thing in there with the trunnion in place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Well I went with the arsenal slr106. I now see that they are producing a version with an 8.5 inch barrel? How bad would that effect the ballistics of the 556? My main question is.... Am I a step ahead with this when planning to sbr and install an ak100 folding stock? What is the deal with the rear trunnion in this thing? I also think it would look good with a wood stock back there, but then I would need to replace the trunnion with one that has a tang? Please excuse my lack of expertise in this area. I think it would be cool to make a wood stock fold with ak100 folding hardware. Is that even possible? -DL http://counterstrikefox.freeservers.com/mv.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lewie212 37 Posted March 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I think it would be cool to make a wood stock fold with ak100 folding hardware. Is that even possible? -DL Here is my pathetic attempt at using paint. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I think it would be cool to make a wood stock fold with ak100 folding hardware. Is that even possible? -DL SBR Mockup.jpg Here is my pathetic attempt at using paint. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/53657-how-bout-those-hot-rodded-dracos/page-6?hl See Post #164 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lewie212 37 Posted March 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I think it would be cool to make a wood stock fold with ak100 folding hardware. Is that even possible? -DL SBR Mockup.jpg Here is my pathetic attempt at using paint. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/53657-how-bout-those-hot-rodded-dracos/page-6?hl See Post #164 Is there any way to do that using AK100 series hardware? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Anything is possible but I don't know for sure. You would have to fabricate something for the latch to hold to on the stock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 +1 if you are patient and handy, you can fit the bits into a piece of wood. You may need to add some epoxy or other filler for support in some areas. (thinking of the little place where the latch catches.) Also AK 100 series have a cutout router-ed into the left side to clear the scope rail. IMO this would be ugly on a wood stock, and tricky without a template and router guide. Also many stocks might have hollows where you would want to mill in. This isn't a problem with the PAP, I imagine, since it lacks the rail, but I would be curious to know if the front latch would have a place to go on the receiver. Are those up front dimensions the same? For my $.02, AK 100 is nice, but not to the degree of the hype. I like my Bulgy wood on ACE hinge setup, with custom tang replacement ferrule better than those I have handled. Your taste may vary. This would be very easy to install on a PAP if you put up the cash for a stamp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lewie212 37 Posted March 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 +1 if you are patient and handy, you can fit the bits into a piece of wood. You may need to add some epoxy or other filler for support in some areas. (thinking of the little place where the latch catches.) Also AK 100 series have a cutout router-ed into the left side to clear the scope rail. IMO this would be ugly on a wood stock, and tricky without a template and router guide. Also many stocks might have hollows where you would want to mill in. This isn't a problem with the PAP, I imagine, since it lacks the rail, but I would be curious to know if the front latch would have a place to go on the receiver. Are those up front dimensions the same? For my $.02, AK 100 is nice, but not to the degree of the hype. I like my Bulgy wood on ACE hinge setup, with custom tang replacement ferrule better than those I have handled. Your taste may vary. This would be very easy to install on a PAP if you put up the cash for a stamp. I would be sbring the SLR, and fortunatley I purchased the one without the scope rail because I never intented on putting an optic on it in the first place. I also thing the SLR reciever is already cut to the proper angle. its much steeper than my other saigas and vepr. Kind of convenient now that I want to give this a shot(after all legal steps are taken). Thanks for the help gunfun and 1911, greatly appreciated. Do you know of anywhere that sells just the hardware with the stock itself? Im also looking for the templates for the cut outs.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 With the climate the way it is these days, I would have gone PAP. Surp mags are still easy to find, seems anything in 5.56/.223 is either difficult to find, needs some modding to fit and no matter which situation, requires a lot of $. Surplus x39s are still going for relatively cheap when they come in, comparatively. Either way, hope it works out good for ya and be sure to get some finished pics up once it's set. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) You can get the hardware from K-Var, sometimes AA-OK and AKBuilder.. Brace yourself the parts aren't cheap. dimensions for template Edited March 22, 2013 by mancat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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