richUK 90 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 (edited) Sorry.....forgot this one Edited April 13, 2013 by UKAK 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Are any of those rifles functional, or are they all deacts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 (edited) They are functional according to his previous posts only they are single shot and straight pull back action to cycle each round. ETA, magazine fed of course. Edited April 14, 2013 by MT Predator Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Well, they look nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 They are functional according to his previous posts only they are single shot and straight pull back action to cycle each round. ETA, magazine fed of course. Interesting. I didn't know that rifles with such short barrels were lawful in the UK. I know the required barrel length on shotguns is fairly long - I figured rifles would be somewhat similar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted April 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 (edited) The 104,AKM and the Dragunov are all live fire (7.62x39 and 54r respectively).....the 74u is deactivated as it would be too short to be legal in the UK and 5.45 ammo is nearly impossible to get over here but i thought i would add a pic of it anyway With the stock folded in the 104 is about as short as you can go and still be UK legal,the flash hider is permanently attached.I went with the Khyber Pass look on this one and paracorded the stock Edited April 14, 2013 by UKAK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 It breaks my heart that these awesome weapons are so neutered so you can have them. I'm glad you enjoy them but damn that sucks. Did you have to have your gone inspected and suck to be able to legally own them? And can you get s permit to carry a pistol any way? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted April 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 (edited) It breaks my heart that these awesome weapons are so neutered so you can have them. I'm glad you enjoy them but damn that sucks. Did you have to have your gone inspected and suck to be able to legally own them? And can you get s permit to carry a pistol any way? All that's done to make them straight pull is the gas port in the barrel isn't drilled and a gas piston isn't fitted,though the carrier is threaded etc.....not exactly rocket science if the shtf ever No pistols in the UK except long-barreled (barrel length of 300mm and overall length of 600mm) and blackpowder.Semi auto pistols can be owned but again have to be 600mm long and .22lr only.The extra length is achieved by having a rear facing extension off the pistol grip. I would rather have a couple of straight pull AKs and the Dragunov than not have them at all,and one thing that does make up for it a bit is the fact they can be 100% Russian as we don't need compliance parts and have no mag capacity restrictions.The weird thing is we can have semi auto Saiga and Vepr shotguns already fitted with AK pistol grips,handguards and folding stocks etc with hi-cap mags yet we can't own a semi auto rifle!!!.... Edited April 14, 2013 by UKAK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 I love the look of your 104! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted April 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 I love the look of your 104! Thank you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 So can you have higher capacity shotgun mags? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Thanks for the post nice collection. I guess this is what the US has to look forward to as far a functionally is concerned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Very nice. Do you notice any kind of accuracy increase being they are single shot/straight pull. Not sure if you have shot semi auto AK's before to compare. Thought I would ask though. Excellent collection regardless! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted April 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 So can you have higher capacity shotgun mags? On Section 1 semi auto shotguns we can have high capacity mags including drums.Section 1 means it's classed as a firearm as opposed to a normal shotgun (ie a traditional side by side) on a standard shotgun certificate.A shotgun certificate is easier to obtain than a section 1 firearms certificate.A section 5 certificate can be applied for, this covers semi and full auto,but approval has to be given by the governments Home Secretary and would not be granted without special reason such as weapons testing or arms dealing etc.The chances of the average guy getting a section 5 certificate is virtually nil!. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Here in the us there are some people calling for semiautos to be regulated just like full autos. It's not going to happen in the next few years but that's what they would like. However here in the states depending on the state you live in you can own full autos pretty easy it just takes months to wait on approval from the Feds. We also must do the same crap for a rifle with a barrel shorter than 16" or 18" for a shotgun, also silencers and pen guns and a few other weapons fall under this. Hell we can own greande launchers and artillery if you'd like. Only thing is each live granade is a 200 dollar tax and same wait as the weapons. I really enjoy talking about different international gun laws. I think I'll start a thread on it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 It breaks my heart that these awesome weapons are so neutered so you can have them. I'm glad you enjoy them but damn that sucks.Did you have to have your gone inspected and suck to be able to legally own them? And can you get s permit to carry a pistol any way? All that's done to make them straight pull is the gas port in the barrel isn't drilled and a gas piston isn't fitted,though the carrier is threaded etc.....not exactly rocket science if the shtf ever No pistols in the UK except long-barreled (barrel length of 300mm and overall length of 600mm) and blackpowder.Semi auto pistols can be owned but again have to be 600mm long and .22lr only.The extra length is achieved by having a rear facing extension off the pistol grip. I would rather have a couple of straight pull AKs and the Dragunov than not have them at all,and one thing that does make up for it a bit is the fact they can be 100% Russian as we don't need compliance parts and have no mag capacity restrictions.The weird thing is we can have semi auto Saiga and Vepr shotguns already fitted with AK pistol grips,handguards and folding stocks etc with hi-cap mags yet we can't own a semi auto rifle!!!.... That what i thought when i saw your guns,would take me a minute to make them right Great Russian girls man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Here in the us there are some people calling for semiautos to be regulated just like full autos. It's not going to happen in the next few years but that's what they would like. However here in the states depending on the state you live in you can own full autos pretty easy it just takes months to wait on approval from the Feds. We also must do the same crap for a rifle with a barrel shorter than 16" or 18" for a shotgun, also silencers and pen guns and a few other weapons fall under this. Hell we can own greande launchers and artillery if you'd like. Only thing is each live granade is a 200 dollar tax and same wait as the weapons. I really enjoy talking about different international gun laws. I think I'll start a thread on it. Technically grenades are classed as DDs and in theory, would transfer on a Form 4 or could be manufactured on a Form 1 - but they would be illegal to possess and your form would not be approved unless you already had the appropriate explosives license. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
2ndAmendican 23 Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Beautiful collection. It does suck that they're neutered, but better to have them, than not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted April 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Beautiful collection. It does suck that they're neutered, but better to have them, than not.Thank you The way I look at it is they are still more fun to shoot than a bolt action .22 Here's a pic of the 104 I took at the range yesterday with the original furniture fitted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jaba1017 71 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Can your queen and princes have real weapons. I bet they do and just the serfs get display pieces. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted October 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Can your queen and princes have real weapons. I bet they do and just the serfs get display pieces. Not getting the serf/display piece thing?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Can your queen and princes have real weapons. I bet they do and just the serfs get display pieces. Not getting the serf/display piece thing?! He is referencing the fact that you reside within a constitutional monarchy, wherein the Queen and Her Men are granted licence to do as they please and own what they will, whilst the peasantry must wade through an ocean of red tape to lawfully purchase a pale imitation of the weaponry of the nobility. Or something like that. I very much doubt that the Queen sleeps with an AKS-74U beneath her pillow - but I've been wrong before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted October 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Can your queen and princes have real weapons. I bet they do and just the serfs get display pieces. Not getting the serf/display piece thing?! He is referencing the fact that you reside within a constitutional monarchy, wherein the Queen and Her Men are granted licence to do as they please and own what they will, whilst the peasantry must wade through an ocean of red tape to lawfully purchase a pale imitation of the weaponry of the nobility. Or something like that.I very much doubt that the Queen sleeps with an AKS-74U beneath her pillow - but I've been wrong before. I thought everyone knows she has a Sten and a SMLE under the bed! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Can your queen and princes have real weapons. I bet they do and just the serfs get display pieces. Not getting the serf/display piece thing?! He is referencing the fact that you reside within a constitutional monarchy, wherein the Queen and Her Men are granted licence to do as they please and own what they will, whilst the peasantry must wade through an ocean of red tape to lawfully purchase a pale imitation of the weaponry of the nobility. Or something like that.I very much doubt that the Queen sleeps with an AKS-74U beneath her pillow - but I've been wrong before. I thought everyone knows she has a Sten and a SMLE under the bed! ...and I'll bet she received them when they were first issued. 1940 and 1895, respectively. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) Beautiful collection. It does suck that they're neutered, but better to have them, than not.Thank you The way I look at it is they are still more fun to shoot than a bolt action .22 Here's a pic of the 104 I took at the range yesterday with the original furniture fitted IMG_20130420_173152.jpg Nice, is this PK-A Venezuela RD?, I have PK-01V on my 74s, PKs one of the best Russian RD on the market IMO What are the AK and Dragunov mag prices in UK? Edited October 6, 2013 by atakacorp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted October 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 atakacorp............its a Belomo PK-A not the Venezuela version. Over here i can get a pair of Izhmash or Tula Bakelites for around £30 (GBP) and steel 30r mags work out at around £10 each.Milsurp mags are easy to get, aftermarket polymer ones not so.Dragunov mags are rare here, some places charge nearly £100 for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) I'm glad you can still own guns better than .22. Any movement to reverse the bad laws? In the US, we are resisting, the best we can, without starting a war. They are trying everything they can to take away our firearms, under the current "Democrat" Govt. Their problem is 200+ years of "individualism" and a "self-reliance" mentality, in most of the population. It's probably an age-old debate, between the government and those that do not want to become "subjects" of the government but, still respect order. In America the Government is supposed to be us but.... There are two classes being formed. Them and us. You have some beautiful guns, non the less. Edited October 23, 2013 by Sim_Player Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted October 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Thank you SIM_player, there is now a 1939 Izhevsk 91/30 added to the family With regard to reversing the laws there is an online petition on the go to get the ban on semiauto rifles and handguns repealed.If the petition reaches 100k (iirc) then parliament have to debate it in the House Of Commons but I don't think they will be repealed especially when the US goverment are looking at tighter gun control. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) Yes, your rifles could be easily modified, if SHTF. Yours are still very formidable weapons in their current state. How does current British Law view "self-defense", in general? As bad as the US Media makes it sound, gun violence is extremely rare, over here, in most of the country. The cities have the worst gun violence, crime, and poverty. They also have the lowest unemployment rates, higher number of social-welfare recipients, and strictest gun laws for law-abiding people. The criminals caught using guns seldom go to prison, especially minors. Edited October 25, 2013 by Sim_Player Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted October 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 British law says self defense must be proportionate, self defense cannot be used as a valid reason to possess firearms.Gun crime is pretty rare over here but knife crime is quite high, especially amongst teenage gangs in the cities. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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