BrutalGardener 205 Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Hey, guys. There's a pretty big old screw going all the way through the stock (from right to left), right under the rear sight block. Anyone know what it's for? Mine is fairly loose. Do I need to have it tight? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zagumennyyilya 51 Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 I have no idea, but I always wondered what it was for, mosin nagants have something similar and that is for the recoil lug but who knows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dracozny 11 Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 that's basically what it looks like to me a crossbolt for a recoil lug. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutalGardener 205 Posted May 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 that's basically what it looks like to me a crossbolt for a recoil lug. Any idea if needs to be tight? Like I said, the screw on mine was fairly loose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dracozny 11 Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Yea I would snug it up, no sense in letting it fall out. the flat part of the bolt should be flush against the receiver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zagumennyyilya 51 Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 i use very small needle nose pliers or snap-ring pliers to tighten the nut with the two holes, the cross bar is has a flat side and the only way my barreled action would fit properly is if the flat side is towards the receiver, so if you spin the side slot, it will rotate the bar and move the action, thats why is tighten the nut with the two holes and leave the other side to be flat towards receiver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dracozny 11 Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 i use very small needle nose pliers or snap-ring pliers to tighten the nut with the two holes, the cross bar is has a flat side and the only way my barreled action would fit properly is if the flat side is towards the receiver, so if you spin the side slot, it will rotate the bar and move the action, thats why is tighten the nut with the two holes and leave the other side to be flat towards receiver. ring pliers work perfectly for this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutalGardener 205 Posted May 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 Hmm... I held the nut with the two holes in place and tightened the nut with with a slot using a big flat screw driver, it went quite a bit inside the stock before it got tight. Am I doing it wrong? I've never taken off the stock and have no idea idea how this cross-bolt interacts with the action inside there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dracozny 11 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 if your turning the slotted side your turning the hole bolt. so the flat side of the bolt could be facing any random direction. if the action is in the stock when your doing this then the stock is extremely sloppy as you should not be able to turn it with any amount of ease. the nut with two holes is the only part that should be able to be tightened with the action in place. so based on that you may need to bed the action. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutalGardener 205 Posted May 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 if your turning the slotted side your turning the hole bolt. so the flat side of the bolt could be facing any random direction. if the action is in the stock when your doing this then the stock is extremely sloppy as you should not be able to turn it with any amount of ease. the nut with two holes is the only part that should be able to be tightened with the action in place. so based on that you may need to bed the action. Thanks. I am still having difficulty picturing how all this fits. I think that I need to remove the stock this weekend... see how everything works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dracozny 11 Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) here is some pics, since my rifle has been sitting dismantled on my desk for months waiting for that RSA Trigger group.. so here is a pic of me turning the slotted side from normal https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62698803/Rifle/2013-05-17%2013.18.45.jpg to wrong https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62698803/Rifle/2013-05-17%2013.18.32.jpg here is the position it should be in https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62698803/Rifle/2013-05-17%2013.17.16.jpg and in relation to the action https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62698803/Rifle/2013-05-17%2013.21.51.jpg I will add that I am still able to turn mine a smidgen, maybe less than a quarter of a turn, in theory it should not budge. Edited May 17, 2013 by Dracozny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutalGardener 205 Posted May 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 here is some pics, since my rifle has been sitting dismantled on my desk for months waiting for that RSA Trigger group.. so here is a pic of me turning the slotted side from normal https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62698803/Rifle/2013-05-17%2013.18.45.jpg to wrong https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62698803/Rifle/2013-05-17%2013.18.32.jpg here is the position it should be in https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62698803/Rifle/2013-05-17%2013.17.16.jpg and in relation to the action https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62698803/Rifle/2013-05-17%2013.21.51.jpg I will add that I am still able to turn mine a smidgen, maybe less than a quarter of a turn, in theory it should not budge. Thanks again. I probably scratched up the action, dug into the wood and made my stock loose, trying to "tighten it" a few turns. Me and my freakishly strong hands, combined with impatience, and perfectionism. Should have gotten all the answers BEFORE messing with the "mysterious screw". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zagumennyyilya 51 Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 To be honest, that is a very lame recoil lug screw setup, when the rifle recoils, the action is what will be pushing rearward, so during firing, the action will be pulling away from the stock horizontally, on the mosin nagant, there is a lug off the barrel that rests in front of the screw not behind, so i really don't get how the screw can even work as a recoil lug screw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dracozny 11 Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 To be honest, that is a very lame recoil lug screw setup, when the rifle recoils, the action is what will be pushing rearward, so during firing, the action will be pulling away from the stock horizontally, on the mosin nagant, there is a lug off the barrel that rests in front of the screw not behind, so i really don't get how the screw can even work as a recoil lug screw. perhaps its sole purpose is to give added strength to the stock and not for recoil.. strange part is its nearly identical to a normal cross-bolt for recoil, but I agree with you on the placement being a bit peculiar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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