Loricatus 0 Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Hey guys.. First post here.. Been lurking for a while though. I think I'm going to go with the Surefire quad rail for my setup... I want to use an angled foregrip on it, however. I'm not sure if the bottom rail on the Surefire quad rail goes back far enough to adequately use an AFG. I would maybe also possible want to mount a bipod at some point. Does anyone have any experience with AFG on the Surefire quad rail? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebobrusso 27 Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 hate the afg just my opinion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loricatus 0 Posted May 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 Really? Can you elaborate? What don't you like about it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 (edited) in my opinion, the angle fore grip is just a waste of money, it doesn't do anything that improves the firearm, it's just more useless junk that people attach to their AKs/ARs for nothing more then a "kewl" factor. no real need unless if it's your intention is to go "profiling" on the range, then a AFG is the way to go and why on earth would you even want to put a bipod on your 16 in. barrel AK? well, I guess if you go and attach every after market crap on it, you might need it, because it will end up being too heavy to hold up. Edited May 25, 2013 by Matthew Hopkins 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loricatus 0 Posted May 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 Well I am not sure that I will be putting a bipod on it.. And I don't have the 16 inch barrel.. I have the 20inch. Not that it matters tremendously. And I want an AFG because I don't like the regular vertical foregrips nor would a vertical foregrip look good with the style I am going for. I've used AFG on friends rifles before and really liked the feel of them. All I'm putting on my rifle is a scope and an AFG with my thumbhole skeleton stock. That's it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NickWhite 7 Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 I'm not a tactical gun kind of guy, my the AFG is way more comfortable then a forward grip and its how my hand naturally is without one. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loricatus 0 Posted May 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I'm not a tactical gun kind of guy, my the AFG is way more comfortable then a forward grip and its how my hand naturally is without one. That's exactly how I am as well. Last time I used a VFG I just didn't like the feel. But I used an AFG and really liked it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted June 1, 2013 Report Share Posted June 1, 2013 Instead of the AFG you might like the Stark Equipment "express grip" I find it much more comfortable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowFire 220 Posted June 1, 2013 Report Share Posted June 1, 2013 I can't say anything about it being on the surefire quad. However, I can talk about the AFG. I like it because I did notice, as designed that it was more comfortable than grabbing a quad with just a set of rail covers on it. You still get that handguard/rifle feel with the AFG but the angle makes it more comfortable on a quad rail. That is it's purpose, to give you the basic rifle feel and still keep your quad rail without having to settle for rail covers on the bottom rail. I don't own a AFG as I like my VFGs more on my 16in rifles and 18+ inch shotguns but if I have to tool up and the AFG were a better answer, for whatever reason, the afg would be part of my kit. The right tool, for you, to do what you want or need to do. That's what it's about. So, headed to the range? Tool up. As for the bipod, maybe he wants the option of using one so he can shoot from bench to zero his rifle in before he goes off hand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loricatus 0 Posted June 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 Instead of the AFG you might like the Stark Equipment "express grip" I find it much more comfortable. express-grip1.png Interesting. I'll have to check that out. Thanks! I can't say anything about it being on the surefire quad. However, I can talk about the AFG. I like it because I did notice, as designed that it was more comfortable than grabbing a quad with just a set of rail covers on it. You still get that handguard/rifle feel with the AFG but the angle makes it more comfortable on a quad rail. That is it's purpose, to give you the basic rifle feel and still keep your quad rail without having to settle for rail covers on the bottom rail. I don't own a AFG as I like my VFGs more on my 16in rifles and 18+ inch shotguns but if I have to tool up and the AFG were a better answer, for whatever reason, the afg would be part of my kit. The right tool, for you, to do what you want or need to do. That's what it's about. So, headed to the range? Tool up. As for the bipod, maybe he wants the option of using one so he can shoot from bench to zero his rifle in before he goes off hand. Thank you! I appreciate the support. lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerry52 893 Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Isn't that what the mag is for besides holding the bullet thingies Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J10 0 Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 Obviously, we have some members here who are behind the times... Isn't that what the mag is for besides holding the bullet thingies This is an efficient hold on the weapon if you're running something like an sbr. For a longer weapon, holding the weapon further towards the muzzle allows quicker transition between targets / better control of momentum. hate the afg just my opinion Thanks for chiming in. in my opinion, the angle fore grip is just a waste of money, it doesn't do anything that improves the firearm, it's just more useless junk that people attach to their AKs/ARs for nothing more then a "kewl" factor. no real need unless if it's your intention is to go "profiling" on the range, then a AFG is the way to go Have you used one? ____________ Loricatus, You want the afg (by the way I'd go with an afg2, or consider the cobra tactical grip) mounted as far forward as your body mechanics allow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Red Star 38 Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 I have the AFG on my 16 icnh 5.45. I am with you, It feels more natural to have it there. My weak capitalist wrists begin to get tired using the normal AK handguard. I have a 20 inch 7.62x39, and a bipod on it. It is a very accurate rifle, as I'm sure you know. Mine likes Golden Tiger best, but finding it of late has been a fruitless task. When/if you put a bipod on it, try and get it as close to the receiver as possible. I have found that having it close to the receiver helps balance it out more than if it were forward. It also looks more dragunov-y Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) in my opinion, the angle fore grip is just a waste of money, it doesn't do anything that improves the firearm, it's just more useless junk that people attach to their AKs/ARs for nothing more then a "kewl" factor. no real need unless if it's your intention is to go "profiling" on the range, then a AFG is the way to go Have you used one? yes, I've shot a friends AR with that thing on there, it was just useless add on do-dad. it didn't do anything to improve the hold or for sighting in on the target, and putting it on a AK will be just as useless. Edited June 14, 2013 by Matthew Hopkins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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