patriot 7,197 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 The truck axle they keep using doesn't help. If you're talking about the 'Stang I'll beg to differ... The 8.8" is actually a pretty solid piece with a couple of affordable investments made to it. I was on the fence for a long time about 8.8" vs. 9" (both truck axles I suppose) for my car. The money + the extra weight I decided the 8.8" was good enough for me. Lots of guys are running mildly upgraded 8.8"s into the 9s in "light" cars (~3200lbs)... Not sure how well they hold up in the heavy pig S197 platform. I'll flame GM a bit here and say that ANYTHING is better than the S-10 rear in the previous generation F-body. I have no idea why GM thought a 100hp 4 cylinder axle would be just dandy for a 385hp V8 car. I was referring to the handling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedChallenger 149 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) I'm biased but I prefer the look of the Challenger. I also agree, but they look like they need lowered about a foot from stock ride height whenever I see one in person.. It's one of the few cars that I think looks MUCH better in photos. I loathe the Camaro styling... I hated the S197 Mustang for a long time too and still am not a huge fan.. Ford seem to keep making it worse too (the minor refresh in 2010 to give it an Accord's ass is just plain horrible). mustangbutt.jpg accordass.jpg Agreed. Mine (in pic) is lowered substantially with a Eibach Pro Line set. Now I have to be careful about bottoming out and parking space curbs. Edited October 27, 2013 by RedChallenger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 The truck axle they keep using doesn't help. If you're talking about the 'Stang I'll beg to differ... The 8.8" is actually a pretty solid piece with a couple of affordable investments made to it. I was on the fence for a long time about 8.8" vs. 9" (both truck axles I suppose) for my car. The money + the extra weight I decided the 8.8" was good enough for me. Lots of guys are running mildly upgraded 8.8"s into the 9s in "light" cars (~3200lbs)... Not sure how well they hold up in the heavy pig S197 platform. I'll flame GM a bit here and say that ANYTHING is better than the S-10 rear in the previous generation F-body. I have no idea why GM thought a 100hp 4 cylinder axle would be just dandy for a 385hp V8 car. I was referring to the handling. Then you're still a bit off base... http://fastestlaps.com/cars/ford_mustang_shelby_gt500_659.html That's with a solid rear axle... The rear independent Camaro ran slower at Leguna Seca (a very tight track with almost no straight away, which should have minimized the power advantage of the Mustang): http://fastestlaps.com/cars/chevrolet_camaro_zl-1.html The real take away from that type of data is that both cars are absolute monsters. We're lucky to live in these times! We'll be even luckier in 10 years when they're affordable! I'm biased but I prefer the look of the Challenger. I also agree, but they look like they need lowered about a foot from stock ride height whenever I see one in person.. It's one of the few cars that I think looks MUCH better in photos. I loathe the Camaro styling... I hated the S197 Mustang for a long time too and still am not a huge fan.. Ford seem to keep making it worse too (the minor refresh in 2010 to give it an Accord's ass is just plain horrible). mustangbutt.jpg accordass.jpg Agreed. Mine (in pic) is lowered substantially with a Eibach Pro Line set. Now I have to be careful about bottoming out and parking space curbs. HA! Funny enough, I was looking at the wheel arches vs. tires and I thought it looked better than normal! Like I said though, that model always photographs well (to me). That's a beautiful ride you've got. I know what you mean about bottoming out and such.. My 'Stang is dropped 1" and it makes all the difference in the world in many ways. I drove it to my last employer exactly once after it dragged its mufflers over one of their silly speed bumps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedChallenger 149 Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Speaking of the aforementioned cars, here is a interesting pic taken in my work parking lot. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) DOH!!! What guy bought a "Bumblebee"? (and yes, I think it looks sharp in that color, but REALLY?) Way cool picture! Also, props for being the only guy concerned about his interior! Edited October 30, 2013 by Maxwelhse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EthanM 514 Posted October 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) I want one of those challengers! They look great. http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna_seca.html So the boss 302 placed 42nd, but the 302 Laguna seca placed 50th. Um that seems backwards lol Edited October 30, 2013 by Ethan M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 That would be in line with ford's new ONE concept of design. They will all look like aston martin's in the next few years. Ford owns Aston Martin and Jaguar. I know an engineer who worked at Ford and he told me that when Ford took over Jaguar, they had to impose quality standards to get Jaguar up to quality expected from Ford. Speaking of the aforementioned cars, here is a interesting pic taken in my work parking lot. The Challenger styling was copied from the Camaro of the 60s. The Mustang roof came from the stylist who worked at Audi and that's his fingerprint otherwise the roof would have looked more like the 68 Mustang it was styled after. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) The truck axle they keep using doesn't help. If you're talking about the 'Stang I'll beg to differ... The 8.8" is actually a pretty solid piece with a couple of affordable investments made to it. I was on the fence for a long time about 8.8" vs. 9" (both truck axles I suppose) for my car. The money + the extra weight I decided the 8.8" was good enough for me. Lots of guys are running mildly upgraded 8.8"s into the 9s in "light" cars (~3200lbs)... Not sure how well they hold up in the heavy pig S197 platform. I'll flame GM a bit here and say that ANYTHING is better than the S-10 rear in the previous generation F-body. I have no idea why GM thought a 100hp 4 cylinder axle would be just dandy for a 385hp V8 car. I was referring to the handling. Then you're still a bit off base... http://fastestlaps.com/cars/ford_mustang_shelby_gt500_659.html That's with a solid rear axle... The rear independent Camaro ran slower at Leguna Seca (a very tight track with almost no straight away, which should have minimized the power advantage of the Mustang): http://fastestlaps.com/cars/chevrolet_camaro_zl-1.html The real take away from that type of data is that both cars are absolute monsters. We're lucky to live in these times! We'll be even luckier in 10 years when they're affordable! Then let's be adults and not argue on the internet. I wasn't even looking for a car when I saw the Camaro SS and HAD to have one! I'll NEVER own another Fords after multiple horrible experiences. You don't like the new Camaro. BFD. Move on. Edited November 2, 2013 by patriot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 At the risk of restarting the pissing contest... The pics of the 2015 are published. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Looks like a mitsubishi eclipse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Gross looks more like a jag to me Edited December 5, 2013 by beefcakeb0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1312_2015_ford_mustang_first_look/photo_10.html Still looks like a eclipse, or maybe a tiburon... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 That's not the right pic. http://money.cnn.com/2013/12/05/autos/redesigned-ford-mustang/index.html?section=money_latest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 yeah, more like the tiburon... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ronin38 2,117 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Sure, looks just like a Tiburon, except the front, the sides and the back are completely different. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Ford done fucked up with this move. YUUUUK! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pyzik 597 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) I don't like the ass end...It looks pretty good in these Then looks like crap again here Very Tiburon looking here! Edited December 5, 2013 by Pyzik 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 As I said WAAAY back in this thread, the new Mustang design is the closest they could get to copying the current Camaro. They will never top the look of the 1970 Mach 1: Best looking Mustang EVER made!!!!! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Sad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Here's the right pic: eclipse. Yep. Got it in one. Domestic rice. Edited December 5, 2013 by patriot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HappYBallZ 31 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 I don't know... It kinda grew on me after couple of days. It does have side view of older Tiburon plus front of a new Jag and that is not a bad thing to me. not too enthusiastic about the rear look but it is not terrible. The biggest improvement is definitely interior and addition of I4 turbo engine and maybe suspension but that is yet to be reviewed. I am not a big domestic fan with their usually boring exteriors but I would probably drive it... if it also had a hatch instead of the trunk. Much more useful with a hatch! Seems like Ford is trying to reach out to new crowds... baby boomers are dying out so they have to adjust, definitely going for more modern look lately which is IMHO much better than anything that came during early 90s and early 2000s.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 My favorite stang is always going to be the 69 BOSS 429. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 I hope Ford gives the new Shelby some better brakes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DLT 1,646 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Ugly and doesn't look like American muscle. The challenger looks right, that thing doesn't. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 I just want to barf... Carroll Shelby is rolling in his fucking grave.... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Looks better to me than the last one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedChallenger 149 Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Ugh! That thing is horrible, especially the rear bumper and the front end. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) I just want to barf... Carroll Shelby is rolling in his fucking grave.... https://autos.yahoo.com/news/more-hardcore-mustang-shelby-gt350-headed-detroit-160045686.html I don't think Carol would have anything bad to say about the latest Mustang to wear his name. In fact I believe he would love it. It's the first thing Ford has put the Shelby name on that is 100% true to his legacy. 2016 Shelby GT350 5.2 liter, 8,000 rpm, 550 hp Most power from a naturally aspirated Mustang, ever Best chassis on a Mustang, ever. Best brakes on a Mustang, ever. No there will not be a GT350 convertible, because added weight and lower rigidity. And yes boys and girls, there will be a GT350R As far as looks, no reason to think Shelby wouldn't like it. It looks like a cross between a Mustang and Carol's greatest personal creation, the Daytona Coupe, a car that looks as good today as it did in 1965. And a car that spanked Ferrari at Le Mans. Edited November 27, 2014 by Darth Saigus 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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